1st cycle any suggestions

**kwakisaki** · 02-08-2007, 10:13 AM

1-8 deca and sustanon 250 @ sus 250mg @ deca 200mg a wk

as i am just a newbie to this site so not sure what u guys think of this?

**armbar83** · 02-08-2007, 10:17 AM

go read...

what are your stats?
age, height, weight, bf%, training exp, cycle exp, goals...

people need these to help you...

**armbar83** · 02-08-2007, 10:20 AM

thoroughly read all of these threads before asking more questions...

educational threads:
http://forums.steroid.com/educational-threads/

steroid profiles:
http://forums.steroid.com/steroid-profiles/

newbie starter pack:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=212234

rules and guidelines:
http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=145582

in all of these...

start off reading the top "sticky" threads first and work your way down.

utilize the search option for that specific forum to look up things your curious about.

good luck!

**kwakisaki** · 02-08-2007, 10:21 AM

22, 6ft, 180lbs, 15 %bf training 4 about 2 1/2 years. goal build muscle but keep bf low

**armbar83** · 02-08-2007, 10:25 AM

the majority of people would recommend a first cycle of test enanthate or cyp for 10-12weeks shot twice a week (mon, thursday)

sust and deca is not a good first cycle, sust has many test esters in it so it leads to unsteady blood levels. deca should be saved for a 2nd or 3rd cycle.

**kwakisaki** · 02-08-2007, 10:26 AM

i have been advised 4 first cycle test- e @ 500mg wk but ive been told that its a powerful stuff

**kwakisaki** · 02-08-2007, 10:27 AM

test e does that do the same as deca ?

**armbar83** · 02-08-2007, 10:28 AM

i would tell you to train for a few more years, at 6ft 180 you havent hit your physical peak yet. aas should be used once youve hit that plateau...get your diet and training in line. if you eat more clean calories you will reach your goal of more muscle and lower fat...

check out the diet forum
http://forums.steroid.com/diet-nutrition/

this will be more helpful to you at this stage than steroids will...

**armbar83** · 02-08-2007, 10:29 AM

no more questions, go read...

**kwakisaki** · 02-08-2007, 10:30 AM

i know what i am doin i have read this site

**numbat** · 02-08-2007, 10:32 AM

^^^^^^^^^

mayb a little young ... squak squak..test e 500 12 wk .. squak squak..diet structure will help wit low bf..test will improve strength gains . squak.. proper pct.U have many many hrs of reading at ur disposal .

**kwakisaki** · 02-08-2007, 10:33 AM

thanx

**numbat** · 02-08-2007, 10:34 AM

sry armbar little late on response got distracted..

**armbar83** · 02-08-2007, 10:34 AM

Originally Posted by kwakisaki

i know what i am doin i have read this site

then why...
"test e does that do the same as deca ?"
"1-8 deca and sustanon 250 @ sus 250mg @ deca 200mg a wk"
"22, 6ft, 180lbs, 15 %bf training 4 about 2 1/2 years"

not educated questions. im not flamming you, you just need to read up...
good luck

**kwakisaki** · 02-08-2007, 10:34 AM

my coach advised me to take 250 mg sus and 200 mg deca a wk. for 10 wks but u guys say that thats not good for a 1st cycle

**kwakisaki** · 02-08-2007, 10:35 AM

u see i could spend 8 hrs a day on this site for info!

**kwakisaki** · 02-08-2007, 10:36 AM

numbat i guess ure a ninja boy i have just bought a z1000

**armbar83** · 02-08-2007, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by numbat

sry armbar little late on response got distracted..

no problem, maybe if he hears if from someone else he'll believe...
it must be odb in my avatar, i dont think kids take me seriously

**rhed** · 02-08-2007, 10:36 AM

Originally Posted by kwakisaki

test e does that do the same as deca?

You know before I even started thinking of doing any type of aas. I research the stuff for like almost a year. Reading in forums especially hear has made me gain some knowlede of it. Anyway this is where I started reading about the stuffs....
http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=104

**numbat** · 02-08-2007, 10:38 AM

Originally Posted by kwakisaki

u see i could spend 8 hrs a day on this site for info!

Yeah... dont u love it ..lol

**kwakisaki** · 02-08-2007, 10:41 AM

hmm so im stuck

**numbat** · 02-08-2007, 10:43 AM

Originally Posted by kwakisaki

numbat i guess ure a ninja boy i have just bought a z1000

Yes .. kawi rules.. If u need a little break from lookin at AAS and dosages all motherfreakin day.. u can add to my need 4 speed thread in the lounge.. This site almost limitless info on AAS ..And alotta good ppl.. good luck man ..