First time on test,advice needed please

[DrWoody]

I have previously done 2 cycles,both the same,Primo/Winny.Was very happy with the results both times,I am now ready for some test.

39 years old/205lbs/bf% 14

been training on and off for 12 years

Here is what I plan

weeks 1-12 500mgs test e
weeks 1-12 25mgs proviron

Have Letro on hand in case of puffiness


start pct 2 weeks after last shot of test
pct is:
week 1-4 20mg nolva and 50 mg proviron


Questions:1)Do I need to run an AI during cycle or is the proviron sufficent?
Is the pct ok?I would rathernot do clomid as it makes me to depressed.Any suggestions on this and the cycle are greatly appreciated.

[DrWoody]

bump

[SMAN12b]

You shoudl be ok with the proviron as your AI during the cycle, if you notice water retention, you can eitehr up the dose of proviron or add in arimidex or another ai.

cycle looks good as long as your diet and training are there, you should do well

[bigwillystyle]

looks good bro

[DrWoody]

Thanks for the replies,anyone else?

[Hack72]

I would do 600mgs/wk, it has been shown that at this dose the most fat was lost, the most fat free mass, strength, and muscle volume gained when compared to any of the lower doses studied. Good luck

[Swifto]

I would do 600mgs/wk, it has been shown that at this dose the most fat was lost, the most fat free mass, strength, and muscle volume gained when compared to any of the lower doses studied. Good luck

"600mg/wk" for a first testosteorne based cycle isnt right. 500mg/wk is the higher end. Also, why does "600mg/wk" produce more fatloss than 500mg/wk?

"it has been shown". Where exactly? You got a study as it would be interesting?

Finally your advice on taking 100-150mg/ED of Proviron. Why? That seems a lot. Perhaps for PCT as many use higher doses for PCT. But there arnt any studies stating it ISNT suppressive to ones HPTA above 150mg/ED. So this is why I use between 50-75mg/ED.

I used Proviron when "on" and didnt find it very good at combating estorgenic sides effects. More a labido enhancer during PCT. I also wont use it again as the primary compound to combat estorgenic sides. It simply wasnt strong enough I felt. Even at 75-100mg/ED.

[DrWoody]

Swifto,thank you very much for your reply.

What do you suggest I run as an AI during my cycle?I have Letro on hand,but would AIFM be better?

Should I up the dosage of Proviron to 50mg or drop it out of the cycle?

And if you can,please suggest a good pct that doesn't include clomid.

Cheers

[Hack72]

Recommended dose for proviron is 100-150mgs/day. I have used this and had no sides at all. Found this dosage to work best.