Test Prop n winny 3rd cycle help

[nathanlgd]

I'm wanting to do a third cycle but this time I just want good lean mass - the other cycles I've done were Test Enth alone and then Test enth and d-bol.
I've been lifting for 4 years, I'm 24, 180lb @ 5'10''. I was 205lb during my last cycle but I've since lost alot of BF so I don't want to pack any (or little) water or fat on this time around.
I've never done any Test Prop before or winny so I was hoping you guys could suggest a cycle for me using these 2 drugs? I'd like to keep it short but obviously enough time to make good use of the drugs.
Can anyone help me out?
Thanks!

[test_viper]

keep it short and simple...
500mg of ur test prop for 12 weeks

u will get mixed sugestions on the winny... personally i like starting it week one or two..(50mg per day is standard). run it the whole way threw.. winny=mybestfriend.

[test_viper]

test prop hurts the next day,,,but thats the fun of it:P

[KickBoxer]

hey mate,

i just did a prop and winny cycle.. got awesome results. i was shooting 100mg prop ed and 100mg winny ed. came out looking ripped as and also gained about 5kg of lean meat. personally i loved it!

goodluck mate

[gym lord]

some like winny; some dont ... i do, i love it ... run it at least 6 wks on cycle, at least 50mg ed ...

[nathanlgd]

12 weeks!! Thats the sort of duration I was running test enth - I want to use test prop because of its fast acting propeties and its lack of water retention. Because its fast acting I was thinking of just doing like 6 weeks if thats any good? 500mg a week is the norm/begginers dose of Test Enth split into 2 weekly injections - whats the norm/begginers dose of prop?
I was going to dose the winny at a regular dose (you say 50mg ed) for the majority or possibly all the duration of the test prop so maybe 4 to 6 weeks.
How does test prop usualy come? (i.e. test enth comes in 250mg amps)
thanks for the replys so far.

[nathanlgd]

By the way - the winny I can get is oral.

[bigwillystyle]

8 weeks is plenty,stop the winny around week 6
weeks1-8 100mgs eod
weeks1-6 50mgs ed
start pct after last shot of test

[nathanlgd]

Cheers mate, but I was always under the impression that prop had to be shot ed? not oed.

[nathanlgd]

bump

[nathanlgd]

anyone?

[mpoumpou]

Cheers mate, but I was always under the impression that prop had to be shot ed? not oed.

no, testosterone propionate reaches rapidly and maintains supra physiological hormone plasma levels for 48 hours (1)

google the study to read the abstract

1) Pharmacokinetic properties of testosterone propionate in normal men M Fujioka, Y Shinohara, S Baba, M Irie and K Inoue

[nathanlgd]

So oed is fine?

[2deizel]

yes eod is fine plus ed injections of prop can be a pain

[nathanlgd]

Nice one - thats great because I excpected ed shots
so 100mg oed it is then with 50mg of winny ed.
Thanks very much bros! you've been a great help. I'm looking forward to the the cycle now