First injection!! not a problem!

**Billytk03z** · 02-10-2007, 10:52 AM

I shot myself with 125mg test prop in the shoulder.... didnt hurt goin in at all..... I used a 25g 5/8inch syringe/needle (thats all i had at the moment) to make up for the shortness of the needle length I pushed very hard into my shoulder so that I was able to get deep in the muscle..... after I finished injecting, I held the pin in place for an additional minute before pulling out to ensure that all the contents stayed in the muscle.....

I gotta say it was fun!!!

**reppedout1** · 02-10-2007, 11:06 AM

cool bro!i'm thinkin of adding delts to my next cycle,just a lil unsure if i can inject through the tats on my shoulder without fn em up

**reppedout1** · 02-10-2007, 11:08 AM

let us know how the pain is the next few days.i'll be using prop also

**Getbig06** · 02-10-2007, 11:10 AM

thats wasup bro.

**Crest** · 02-10-2007, 12:28 PM

did my 1st shot in my glute thursday, didnt hurt goin in, didnt really hurt afterwards and the followin day it was fine

**bpm1** · 02-10-2007, 12:34 PM

welcome to the dark side bro!

**kynetguy** · 02-10-2007, 01:44 PM

Originally Posted by Billytk03z

I shot myself with 125mg test prop in the shoulder.... didnt hurt goin in at all..... I used a 25g 5/8inch syringe/needle (thats all i had at the moment) to make up for the shortness of the needle length I pushed very hard into my shoulder so that I was able to get deep in the muscle..... after I finished injecting, I held the pin in place for an additional minute before pulling out to ensure that all the contents stayed in the muscle.....

I gotta say it was fun!!!

Report back in 2 days.

It takes prop about 1-2 days to start hurting me beyond minor irritation that comes with about any shot. Sometimes prop kills people, sometimes its painless. Some of it depends on the Solvents and carriers, some of it depends on the person.

GL and enjoy!

Bump up to 1 inch pins at least. Anyone using AAS should be able to be well into muscle at 1 inch. If not your BF is way too high.

**Billytk03z** · 02-10-2007, 04:04 PM

Originally Posted by kynetguy

Report back in 2 days.

It takes prop about 1-2 days to start hurting me beyond minor irritation that comes with about any shot. Sometimes prop kills people, sometimes its painless. Some of it depends on the Solvents and carriers, some of it depends on the person.

GL and enjoy!

Bump up to 1 inch pins at least. Anyone using AAS should be able to be well into muscle at 1 inch. If not your BF is way too high.

I ordered some more pins last night... all will have 1inch needles at least.... also the carrier oil in the prop is grape seed oil so I dont know if that makes a difference or not.....

**beuleux** · 02-10-2007, 05:05 PM

Originally Posted by Billytk03z

I shot myself with 125mg test prop in the shoulder.... didnt hurt goin in at all..... I used a 25g 5/8inch syringe/needle (thats all i had at the moment) to make up for the shortness of the needle length I pushed very hard into my shoulder so that I was able to get deep in the muscle..... after I finished injecting, I held the pin in place for an additional minute before pulling out to ensure that all the contents stayed in the muscle.....

I gotta say it was fun!!!

Im so proud of you son (wipes away tear)

**Johny-too-small** · 02-10-2007, 05:13 PM

i know that you have been on tbol for 5 weeks already so itll be very interesting to see how this works out for you. And yeah, the prop will let you know its there in about a day.

Good luck.

**Slowhand** · 02-10-2007, 06:05 PM

try not to stick the pin in all the way...you want a little bit sticking out just incase it breaks off... that's why I'd go for 1.5inch pins no matter how far you're sticking it

**Billytk03z** · 02-10-2007, 06:20 PM

Originally Posted by beuleux

Im so proud of you son (wipes away tear)

Thanx DAD!! I knew I could do it!!!!

**bpm1** · 02-10-2007, 06:54 PM

Originally Posted by Slowhand

try not to stick the pin in all the way...you want a little bit sticking out just incase it breaks off... that's why I'd go for 1.5inch pins no matter how far you're sticking it

seriously? ive never heard of anyone breaking a pin off, i think your being overcautious with something thats never gonna happen

**Slowhand** · 02-10-2007, 06:59 PM

Originally Posted by bpm1

seriously? ive never heard of anyone breaking a pin off, i think your being overcautious with something thats never gonna happen

I don't think it's possible to be overcautious in this lifestyle to be honest.

**nandro_shagg** · 02-10-2007, 07:04 PM

hmm...big o dude i used to hang with told me he had to use a diabetic needle to inject oil...DUMBARS! i don't even see how thats possible but anyway, said his pin broke off befor..he was a beast but the roids shrunk his brain...

**reppedout1** · 02-10-2007, 07:26 PM

grapeseed supposed to be painless i heard not sure never used it

**kynetguy** · 02-10-2007, 10:02 PM

Originally Posted by Billytk03z

I ordered some more pins last night... all will have 1inch needles at least.... also the carrier oil in the prop is grape seed oil so I dont know if that makes a difference or not.....

Save those 5/8's though. If you ever use HCG , they will come in handy if you chose to shoot it sub-q.

The oil won't matter for pain. I use GSO to make stuff too. I use it though because there are some good health benefits of GSO.

There are a couple things that cause pain with injects:

1) the ester. . .propionate (and other short esters like phenylpropionate and acetate) almost always have a level of pain associated with them for most people.

2) High concentrations of benzyl Benzonate (most common solvent in most gear) in the gear. Lots of home brew and UGL gear tends to have about 20%. This is often the source of pain for people who are more sensitive to it.

3) Gear crashing in the injection site (in depot). This can happen if not enough solvent it used to keep the gear in solution. Basically what you end up with is small little crystals of the hormone sitting in the muscle tissue where the oil was injected. Yes, it will be absorbed by the body just as if it were in solution, its just not micronized and disolved any more. But this is not common unless you are running crazy concentrations of gear. LIke 250mg/mL Test Prop would be an example.

4) Benzyl Alcohol sensitivity. This is not real common actually, but Benzyl Alcohol gets the blame for painful injections. Usually BA at 5% or less will not bother most people. However, just like anything else, some people are more sensitive to it. Somewhere on the internet someone said "BA hurts" and now it is parroted all over the place. I think this assumption comes from the fact that isoprophyl alcohol (rubbing) stings like a beotch on cuts. BA is quite different.

I know, you didn't ask for all that. But I am bored and felt like typing. Home alone with the kids. The wifey is having a "girls night out."

**beuleux** · 02-11-2007, 08:33 AM

Originally Posted by bpm1

seriously? ive never heard of anyone breaking a pin off, i think your being overcautious with something thats never gonna happen

I do it too... it can and does happen, the pin doesnt actually break it just comes unstuck, never happened to me but Ive heard of it. Wouldnt wanna explain it at A&E (ER in American).

**Billytk03z** · 02-11-2007, 02:58 PM

Its been over 24hrs since my first prop injection and I have no soarness or pain whatsoever.... is that normal..... I dont even have the slightest stiffness around the injection site..... shouldnt there be some hint of soarness, im wondering now if I have just oil and not prop!

**Billytk03z** · 02-11-2007, 02:59 PM

Can I inject prop 2 days on/ 1 day off? or since I have no soarness maybe I should try 100mg ed for the first week and go to eod...... How long before I feel the effects of prop?

I just did another injection of Prop at 150mg in my right shoulder now...... now I will wait and see what happens with this injection.... I will shoot ed this week and assess.......

**Billytk03z** · 02-11-2007, 07:37 PM

ok, I spoke wit my source and he said that Test prop nowadays in very common to have no pain..... what do you all thinik?

**passthetest** · 02-11-2007, 08:45 PM

Its common for their to be very little pain you did a good job for your first shot

**DecimaMAS** · 02-11-2007, 08:51 PM

There may be days where you're a bit sore from the injection, if nothing else. Especially if you switch-up to a larger gauge needle in the future.

But congrats on the injections and keep us posted on your gains!!