Skin hard as hell to penetrate with syringe.

**guest589745** · 02-11-2007, 12:08 AM

I'm using the regular teremo 23g 1 1/2 and 1 pins and man, lately my skin is hard as hell to penetrate. Coudl this be from scar tissue even though it is nto the same exact spot I am injecting in ?

what do you guys do? even when I pull the skin apart, it is stilll erally hard to push through and making my inejctions mroe difficult.

**SMAN12b** · 02-11-2007, 12:16 AM

Sounds like scar tissue to me man !! I just try to hit a different spot but sometimes you just gotta push through it gently....

**guest589745** · 02-11-2007, 12:19 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Sounds like scar tissue to me man !! I just try to hit a different spot but sometimes you just gotta push through it gently....

I cant man, I really haev to put a considerable amoutn of pressure on the syringe then it POPS through hela hard but I had to press that hard. I end up moving the syringe around and shit, its just not good.

**dhriscerr** · 02-11-2007, 01:07 AM

you let a little gear like a drop or so come out the end of the needle to lube it up??

**guest589745** · 02-11-2007, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by dhriscerr

you let a little gear like a drop or so come out the end of the needle to lube it up??

that always ends up happening yea

**yngnastyman** · 02-11-2007, 01:14 AM

Originally Posted by dhriscerr

you let a little gear like a drop or so come out the end of the needle to lube it up??

i had that problem, now i do that and its perfectly lubed up and penetrates easily (lol sounds dirty)

ps: im finally over my fear of needles! instead of sitting there and thinking about how much i hate needles, i put on some as i lay dying and blast it and dont think and just do it, im so glad

**Hitman** · 02-11-2007, 01:41 AM

I got the same prob with my delt shots, the first few cycles you hold the pin an inch above the skin,after a while next thing you know your reinacting the shower scene off pyscho(with a syringe instead of the knife).Just try to move sites around if thats possible.

**vitor** · 02-11-2007, 03:03 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

I end up moving the syringe around and shit

Try to avoid that. It will increase the chance of infection greatly, or making a wound that swells. I yust got a golf-ball in my glute by doing this, well it feels like a golf-ball when I touch it under the skin...

**Bigun** · 02-11-2007, 08:40 AM

I have found the Terumo pins very poor quality. I have the 25guage 1inch orange here and also find that the initial piercing is a lot more painful than BD. BD are a much better product in my opinion and the cheaper option here in the UK.

**Bigun** · 02-11-2007, 08:40 AM

Try switching to BD pins if you can skull

**dhriscerr** · 02-11-2007, 10:38 AM

I love the Turmos, Your not new to the game so im assuming you switch between the needle you drew with to a fresh one before you inject?

**plzr8** · 02-11-2007, 11:02 AM

scar tissue....same happens to me, normally delts, when nearing the end of a cycle

**mickdiesel** · 02-11-2007, 11:09 AM

yeah, happened to my delt. I just avoided it for a day and it was fine he next day. I'm running prop so I have a high volume of injections.

**PurplePatriot** · 02-11-2007, 11:10 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

I'm using the regular teremo 23g 1 1/2 and 1 pins and man, lately my skin is hard as hell to penetrate. Coudl this be from scar tissue even though it is nto the same exact spot I am injecting in ?

what do you guys do? even when I pull the skin apart, it is stilll erally hard to push through and making my inejctions mroe difficult.

try this bro.. has worked for me everytime. draw out your juice, then put on a brand new needle. goes in like butter.

**yamaharacing103** · 02-11-2007, 12:18 PM

the same happend to me so i went and got a deep tissue massage in my delts and it broke all that scar tissue up which made it so much easier to inject and also my shoulders grew...

**abstrack** · 02-11-2007, 12:23 PM

Originally Posted by dhriscerr

I love the Turmos, Your not new to the game so im assuming you switch between the needle you drew with to a fresh one before you inject?

i agree. I love Terumos. I think BD suck a big wank. I think the BD's are dull in comparison to Terumos. IMHO

**guest589745** · 02-11-2007, 12:32 PM

thanks you guys, I guess it could be not switching to another needle, like I used to. It didnt seem to matter in the beginning of the cycle though but yea, it just might be.

**dhriscerr** · 02-11-2007, 12:44 PM

Yeah probably new ones are just so much sharper, especially those people that hit them on the bottom of the vial.

**YupYup** · 02-11-2007, 10:38 PM

I had the EXACT same problem with my quad shots. I would try to inject, it would not go in, I would continue to press, the pain would accumulate and then POP it would FINALLY go in. Even after the initial penetration of the skin, the needle going down hurt like hell.

I just tried some different injection sites, ie shouders, pecs, and it was just like the first quad shot I had done. It went in like butter.

**kuad** · 02-12-2007, 01:38 PM

interesting....

**Bigun** · 02-12-2007, 02:38 PM

QUOTE=abstrack]i agree. I love Terumos. I think BD suck a big wank. I think the BD's are dull in comparison to Terumos. IMHO[/QUOTE]

Thats weird, I find the opposite, I used to buy the more expensive Terumos as I thought they would be better quality but personally find the BD's less painful!

I doubt there is a difference between the UK/US version but its a possibility

**natvtec1.8** · 02-12-2007, 02:46 PM

try taking a warm shower for like 5 minutes come out do ur shot then get back in and massage under the warm water for ten minutes that will losen u up

**JohnnySomeone** · 02-12-2007, 03:09 PM

Yeah- Try putting as much moist heat as possible(hot as you can tolerate) on the injection area for 5 minutes prior to. This will loosen your skin up dramatically. And if you tan alot that is usually the culprit to tough skin.LOL

**jdm95lude** · 02-12-2007, 03:26 PM

to me it sounds like scar tissue.

**majorpecs** · 02-12-2007, 03:54 PM

Get one of these dispensing pins http://www.imed.com/shop/detail.cfm/sku/KC218/S/636939
It goes onto the vial and stays there and when you need to fill your syringe, you take of the pin and screw it on. Takes 5 seconds and your needle is fresh and you don't need to worry about buying all those extra pins.

**bigmike8585** · 02-12-2007, 04:35 PM

i know im pretty new here but i had the exact problem....to the point i had friends try to inject for me....still wouldnt penitrate. what i found to work best was to pinch the skin up a little bit, stick the needle in, the release the pinched skin and continue to go into the muscle....i dont know if that is a bad idea but it worked wonders for me, this is how i do it everytime now.

**guest589745** · 02-12-2007, 04:54 PM

See now I am pretty sure it is my skin, I switched the needle and still hard as ****.......

**dhriscerr** · 02-12-2007, 05:13 PM

I dont know man, Try taking a warm shower before you inject, and also this might sound gay but try a mosturizer at night before you go to bed it might soften up your skin? I dont know, how often do you shoot the same location?

**guest589745** · 02-12-2007, 06:39 PM

Originally Posted by dhriscerr

I dont know man, Try taking a warm shower before you inject, and also this might sound gay but try a mosturizer at night before you go to bed it might soften up your skin? I dont know, how often do you shoot the same location?

Uhm I dunno, I shoot in whatever isn't sore so about once a week to maybe twice a week using 6 different spots.

I even stretched the skin a lot but no luck. I really thought the needle thing might ahve eben it too. Lotion, I wonder if that will be a problem when I inject, guess not as long as I clean it like usual before I inject in that area.

**crazyhorse666** · 02-13-2007, 02:00 AM

sit in a very hot bath for awhile prier to injecting

**dhriscerr** · 02-13-2007, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by Skullsmasher

Uhm I dunno, I shoot in whatever isn't sore so about once a week to maybe twice a week using 6 different spots.

I even stretched the skin a lot but no luck. I really thought the needle thing might ahve eben it too. Lotion, I wonder if that will be a problem when I inject, guess not as long as I clean it like usual before I inject in that area.

Lotion the night before not right before your injection, just to soften the skin.