Comment on my thrid cycle. What do you think?

[Schwarz]

Hello all,
I'ts been a while since I logged onto the site but it's good to be back and looking for all the old timers here….

Anyways just looking for opinions on my upcoming third cycle. Here's what I was thinking:

Wk 1-16 500mg test e pw
Wk 1-15 400mg EQ
Wk 1-4 100mg Prop eod
Wk 14-16 100mg Prop eod

Also during I use 20mg of Nolva and 25mg of Proviron ed.

Obviously PCT is the usual (2 weeks after last test e shot)

5 weeks of clomid starting at 300mg ed and dropping to 50mg by the last week. Also HCG for the 2 weeks between the last test e shot and the beginning of Clomid @ 1500mg x 2 ew.

Personal stats:

28 about 235-237lbs 14-15% BF at 5 foot 8 inches. Previous cycle history:

1. Test e/EQ cycle - Liked this cycle a lot and got really good gains/vascularity

2. Test e with a Tbol starter and Prop finisher. - Got reasonable gains from this but I think the combo was wrong and orals really aren't for me.
Really liked the prop though (really had a positive effect on my look/strength).

As you can see I've tried to combine what I liked and found really good in my first 2 cycles into this one. Here are my questions:

1. Overall impressions? Would you change anything?
2. Do you think I should add HCG somewhere in the middle of this cycle?
There's a lot of test in there and I'm thinking it might make my recovery even better. If so where would you suggest I add it and at what dose?

Cheers all.

S

[Schwarz]

Noone has a view...wow is it that well a constructed cycle?

[Kale]

Looks alright, I would run the Prop right up to the start of PCT. 16 weeks is a long cycle, you done one that long before ?

[hugovsilva]

Looks alright, I would run the Prop right up to the start of PCT. 16 weeks is a long cycle, you done one that long before ?

My thoughts exactly. One more yhing, I would bump the EQ to 600 mg/week. I felt 400 mg to be weak for me (maybe it suits you).

[Hunter]

I would drop the eq and add a different compound. If this is a cutter maybe Tren , winny, anavar . If you do decide to stick with the eq 600mgs seems to be the number most people like. I would also consider frontloading it becouse it has such a large ester attached. Also by frontloading it you could shorten your cycle up making recovery easier. Just my two cents, good luck with your cycle

[marcus300]

The cycle is to long in my opinion and the dose of the EQ is to low, eq is weak anyway so id defo consider changing it to another muscle building compound,

If your going to finish on prop run the prop up to start of pct so the test e is out of the system,

[Bigmax]

^^^^^^yep

[Schwarz]

The cycle is to long in my opinion and the dose of the EQ is to low, eq is weak anyway so id defo consider changing it to another muscle building compound,

If your going to finish on prop run the prop up to start of pct so the test e is out of the system,

Thanks guys. Noted on making the EQ 600mg.

My first cycle was 13 weeks and second was 15weeks. How long do you think I should make this one?

Good point about the prop right up until PCT. Will do that.

I knew another couple of pairs of eyes would be a good idea.

Thanks all.

PS Marcus300 good to see you and Booz are still around!

[marcus300]

Thanks guys. Noted on making the EQ 600mg.

My first cycle was 13 weeks and second was 15weeks. How long do you think I should make this one?

Good point about the prop right up until PCT. Will do that.

I knew another couple of pairs of eyes would be a good idea.

Thanks all.

PS Marcus300 good to see you and Booz are still around!

In your first cycle and second cycle when did the gains start to slow down?

[Archetypes]

The cycle is to long in my opinion and the dose of the EQ is to low, eq is weak anyway so id defo consider changing it to another muscle building compound,

If your going to finish on prop run the prop up to start of pct so the test e is out of the system,

I am with Marcus 16 weeks is way too long... up the doses and shorten the cycle should get better results with less side effects.

[trenzbyotch]

at your weight i'd up the prop to 100mg every day as a jump and finish

[Schwarz]

In your first cycle and second cycle when did the gains start to slow down?

Mmmm first cycle they kept on coming right to pretty much the end of the cycle. The second cycle gains started to slow at about wk 10-11. But then I did a prop finish at the end and the gains started again.

Many thanks to all who have commented. All the info/suggestions have been great.

Kudos to you all
S

[Schwarz]

at your weight i'd up the prop to 100mg every day as a jump and finish

Mmm thanks I'll look into that. I know in my last cycle I only did a prop finish at 100mg eod and I felt super strong off that and horny as hell!!!!

[bazerk]

Sounds like a cycle I've been considering. Wouldn't you want to bump the test (combined E and prop) each week to surpass the EQ?

[Schwarz]

Sounds like a cycle I've been considering. Wouldn't you want to bump the test (combined E and prop) each week to surpass the EQ?

Mmm good point here bazerk. Anyone wanna give their opinion on this?

[Schwarz]

bump

[topnotch]

Sounds like a cycle I've been considering. Wouldn't you want to bump the test (combined E and prop) each week to surpass the EQ?

EQ isn't like deca ...most people run 500/test per week and 600/EQ...its different than deca so you can run more eq than test no problem.