Water retention!!!!

[blou_bulle]

Hi I'm doing a course of deca & sust I'm getting good gains, but have recently bloated, I have more chins than I want! Is there anything I can take to combat this?

Cheers

[reppedout1]

i would try l-dex at like .25 mg or .5 mg a day,that worked for me,thats liquidex or arimidex

[blou_bulle]

Cheers dude, would it be worth doing winny with my cycle?

[trenzbyotch]

diet plays a huge role in the amount of water retention also.. lower your sodium intake, and be sure to drink at least 1.5 gallons of water/day.. give it a try and after a few days you should start noticing a decrease in the # of chins you got..lol

[kynetguy]

Hi I'm doing a course of deca & sust I'm getting good gains, but have recently bloated, I have more chins than I want! Is there anything I can take to combat this?

Cheers

I agree with repped. I would start taking l-dex (arimidex) at .5mg/day for a week then drop it down to .25mg/day for maintenance. Take it everyday up until you start your PCT.

[frank12391]

I agree with repped. I would start taking l-dex (arimidex) at .5mg/day for a week then drop it down to .25mg/day for maintenance. Take it everyday up until you start your PCT.

Agreed. I can't add to that. I think if the vets were giving thier imput this would be the concensus

[wes cst rydr]

dude...letro doing wonders for my water bloat. .5 ed on deca,test d bol cycle.water is gone!

[bpm1]

Agreed. I can't add to that. I think if the vets were giving thier imput this would be the concensus

ditto! had the same thing goin on, letro @ .5mg bloat gone, asta la vista

[ph34rsh4ck]

why does the letro get rid of the bloat?

[Dr.primo]

because it blocks estrogen and excess estrogen causes excess water retention, but be careful it might hinder gains if your dose is too high.

[jdm95lude]

which is better to fight bloat though? Letro or Armidex?

[DecimaMAS]

Hi I'm doing a course of deca & sust I'm getting good gains, but have recently bloated, I have more chins than I want! Is there anything I can take to combat this?

Cheers

Your answer is already on this board. Lower your sodium intake and if that's not enough, flush it with a short cycle of ephedrine.

[kynetguy]

which is better to fight bloat though? Letro or Armidex?

Thats a double edged sword :-)

Letro is more effective at blocking the aromatase enzyme, however, arimidex is generally accepted by most as being safer to run long term because it is easier on your lipid profile.

Remember, we don't want to TOTALLY erradicate estrogen as it can hinder gains. But at the same time, too much leads to the side effects that initially started this thread (bloat) as well as gyno.

Now, if I was developing Gyno, I would hit the letro as it can reverse early stage gyno. But I would not use it long term.

[kynetguy]

because it blocks estrogen and excess estrogen causes excess water retention, but be careful it might hinder gains if your dose is too high.

Actually, Letro and Arimidex are Aromatase Inhibitors (AI's). Blocking the Aromatase enzyme actually prevents the convertion to estrogen.

They don't block estrogen. SERM's Such as Nolva and Clomid block estrogen. They block estrogen by binding to the estrogen receptors. . .

[Seattle Junk]

Also remember y'all that estrogen plays a roll in your gains. We need a little estrogen to maximize our gains on cycle. If we blunt all estrogen then we also run into libido problems and sexual sides.

[kynetguy]

Remember, we don't want to TOTALLY erradicate estrogen as it can hinder gains. But at the same time, too much leads to the side effects that initially started this thread (bloat) as well as gyno.

Thanks for the recap Seattle.

[ph34rsh4ck]

what does the l-dex do, can you run that long term with no risk of affecting gains like letro would?

[ph34rsh4ck]

well?

[kynetguy]

I answered both those questions already in this thread.

As well refer to the profile forums.

[aadrenaline]

haha im on week 4 and my face is getting rounder..if it gets worse ill run some ldex but its not that bad looking yet

[frank12391]

haha im on week 4 and my face is getting rounder..if it gets worse ill run some ldex but its not that bad looking yet

Why don't you get on the l/dex before it gets bad, if your only into week 4 and already bloated, it will get worse. Why wait till then?

[Warrior]

A lot of drug options are being discussed with no look into the diet... whats your diet look like? Binge drinking and excessive sugars can irritate water retention.

Also, what does the cycle actually consist of? Not just drugs - but amounts, frequency and duration?

[kynetguy]

A lot of drug options are being discussed with no look into the diet... whats your diet look like? Binge drinking and excessive sugars can irritate water retention.

Also, what does the cycle actually consist of? Not just drugs - but amounts, frequency and duration?

Good call Warrior!

[blou_bulle]

Cheers bro's, by the sounds of it I'm not drinking enough water, my diet is quite tight, not to much suger & no alcohol. I'm doing 4ml of deca & 2 ml of sust a week, its my 3rd week going to do it for about 8! I'm taking amino acids, trying lean system 7 now, its supposed to help water retention also increased my cardio.

[BOUNCER 01]

Cheers bro's, by the sounds of it I'm not drinking enough water, my diet is quite tight, not to much suger & no alcohol. I'm doing 4ml of deca & 2 ml of sust a week, its my 3rd week going to do it for about 8! I'm taking amino acids, trying lean system 7 now, its supposed to help water retention also increased my cardio.

Plenty of cardio and chuck some evening primrose oil in there too.Try to avoid the anti eostrogens(use it if you desperately need it) as they will limit your gains if your looking for maximum gains that is.

[blou_bulle]

So is the lean system 7 a anti eostrogen????

[Warrior]

Cheers bro's, by the sounds of it I'm not drinking enough water, my diet is quite tight, not to much suger & no alcohol. I'm doing 4ml of deca & 2 ml of sust a week, its my 3rd week going to do it for about 8! I'm taking amino acids, trying lean system 7 now, its supposed to help water retention also increased my cardio.

Its easy to not get in enough water while on cycle. And if your not intaking enough - you will retain it.

Water is involved in every process. And during a cycle you are trying to maximize the tissue building processes - requiring more water. Harder training requires more water. Increased cardio - requires more water. An increased ability to uptake and supercompensate glycogen, again, requires more water. Many make the mistake of drinking less to avoid water retention - but you need to drink more so your body doesn't try and hold onto the fluids is does get. Plus, dehydration can impede performance and cause cramping...

Your dose schedule is probably messing with you too... Sust is hard to keep even androgen levels when used only twice per week. You should be using testosterone enanthate or cypionate. Keeping even blood androgen levels makes it easier to avoid hormonal swings that can lead to edema, acne and even mood swings while on...

[rhed]

hawthorn berry supplement and gallon+ of water a day works for me..

[Warrior]

hawthorn berry supplement and gallon+ of water a day works for me..

Juniper Berries are good too... really helpful...

[rhed]

Juniper Berries are good too... really helpful...

Wow learn something new everyday.. thanks..

[blou_bulle]

Cheers bro's, Been drinking more water but man I'm pissing for England, is that ok???

[blou_bulle]

Guys some guys down my gym were on about some compation gear that hardens muscle & relieves bloating, is there any such thing????