My first cycle

[JAN808]

hi just started my first course with deca + sus + hgh and im 22

400mg of deca a week
500mg of sus a week
8 IU a week

will be doing this for 12 weeks and then stop with the deca and sus and carry on with hgh with something else, when do i start the pct cycle and what will you advise me to take? is this a good cycle for a noobie?

[jdm95lude]

Many people will tell you that you should only take 1 compound for your first cycle to see how your body reacts to that compound then maybe add a new one for your second cycle. I think it looks decent for your first cycle. I would recomend taking Clomid, Nolvadex, Armidex. All 3 and Armidex through your cycle. Do a litte more research on these compounds and you will find your answer. Good luck

[axemurderer187]

you obviously jumped the gun.

Yes you should run 1 compound your first time to see how you react. And you also need to know that you should run test longer then deca. Stop the deca at wk 10 and run the sust for 2 more weeks. Pretty vague answer but you really didnt leave much to work with.

[southmadejd]

If you haven't started your cycle yet then I would just hold onto that gear for a later cycle. Just do Test E for your first cycle. Also if you want to know about PCT then go into the PCT forum. There is a great sticky in there that shows you when to start using PCT and what to use with different compounds.

And if I were you I would definitely stop Deca at week 10 and do Test for two more weeks.....are you familiar with the phrase "deca dick"?

[JAN808]

well iv started the cycle today, but i was already having doubts for some reason i dont know why. would it be ok just to do deca and sus for the time u guys asked me to do? and what is the term "deca dick"

[axemurderer187]

do a search on top for "deca dick".. you will find tons of information. Basically you'll have a tough time getting a hard on if you run more deca then test. By running test longer your making more test for your body to function as it normally would off gear.

[JAN808]

i had a feeling that what you said is deca dik. do you think ive stepped too far using hgh? yea i will do 10 weeks of deca and 12 week of test. do i also need to take clomid, nolvadex and arimidex during cycle or after cycle?

[axemurderer187]

Everybodys PCT protocol is different. Go to the PCT forum and research a good PCT for your cycle. You really should have done more research.

[JAN808]

alrite i guess the pct side of things is sorted, shall i carry on normal or stop taking hgh? and do i have to take something to prevent gyno during cycle like proviron?

[Kale]

do a search on top for "deca dick".. you will find tons of information. Basically you'll have a tough time getting a hard on if you run more deca then test. By running test longer your making more test for your body to function as it normally would off gear.

Care to explain why ?

[axemurderer187]

Care to explain why ?

what do you mean? if you want to add something be my guest. I just know how bad deca dick sucks and a way to prevent it is to take more test/deca...

[southmadejd]

what do you mean? if you want to add something be my guest. I just know how bad deca dick sucks and a way to prevent it is to take more test/deca...

Axe maybe Kale is trying to say that Deca affects certain people in different ways. I was just telling him to take Test longer than Deca because I have seen people shut down extremely hard after not running Test longer than deca or doing deca only cycles. It may not affect him at all but just to be on the safe side why not run it two weeks longer.

[axemurderer187]

Axe maybe Kale is trying to say that Deca affects certain people in different ways. I was just telling him to take Test longer than Deca because I have seen people shut down extremely hard after not running Test longer than deca or doing deca only cycles. It may not affect him at all but just to be on the safe side why not run it two weeks longer.

..so was I just trying to lead him to the safest path. My best friend had to go see the doc and get some viagra because his case was so severe. I mean I didn't think I had to say that everyone may potentially react differently.. Isn't that pretty much obvious? Just giving him some advice to prevent DD, that's all.

I think the bottom line here is that this guy has no idea what he's putting in his body. It sounds to me like he's fishing for someone to build his cycle for him yet we never heard of past cycle history, weight, height, bf% credentials, goals from this gentleman.

[southmadejd]

I think the bottom line here is that this guy has no idea what he's putting in his body. It sounds to me like he's fishing for someone to build his cycle for him yet we never heard of past cycle history, weight, height, bf% credentials, goals from this gentleman.[/QUOTE]

definitely agree ^^^^
I wish when people first joined this site it was mandatory for them to read all of the stickies before they could start posting. Just for their own safety.

[JAN808]

im not asking for anyone to build a cycle for me. i was just wanted to know is this cycle im taking too advance for me as i a a noob but then other issues arrised like DD and pct which i wasnt aware so i had to ask. but axe your advice is still appreciated.

[axemurderer187]

im not asking for anyone to build a cycle for me. i was just wanted to know is this cycle im taking too advance for me as i a a noob but then other issues arrised like DD and pct which i wasnt aware so i had to ask. but axe your advice is still appreciated.

SouthmadeJD, care to chime in here......

[nilrac]

I wish when people first joined this site it was mandatory for them to read all of the stickies before they could start posting. Just for their own safety.

Maybe in an ideal world, but at the same time this forum is here for people to learn about AAS, and in a roundabout way somebody has been advised about a cycle. Sure it took up some of your time, but I don't think it has affected you too much. If it was just a case of logging on and reading stickies there wouldn't be much discussion, would there? Which would defeat the purpose of this forum, I guess?

At the same time, safety comes first, so ofcourse any 'newb', myself included, appreciates the sentiment of more experienced members in cases like these.

Either way, everybody is a "newb" at some point...
Sure though, research is KEY with AAS.

[axemurderer187]

im not asking for anyone to build a cycle for me. i was just wanted to know is this cycle im taking too advance for me as i a a noob but then other issues arrised like DD and pct which i wasnt aware so i had to ask. but axe your advice is still appreciated.

Dude, lets make this real easy for you....

See the stickies at the top of page, READ THEM entirely. Especially the ones for Noobs... I'm not trying to put you on blast but there is really good information up there.

[southmadejd]

SouthmadeJD, care to chime in here......

lol....I will try axe.

Listen Jan nobody is trying to be rude to you or act like your are stupid but the fact is that you don't quite know enough about AAS to be shooting anything into your body. Just relax and go through the stickies in the AAS forums and the PCT forums. Read all of the profiles of steroids and make sure you have all of the gear you need before you start using AAS. PCT is just as important as your actual cycle so make sure you are informed about that also.

Everybody here just wants you to be safe with whatever you do.....personally if this really is your first cycle just take TEST E. You can read all about the cycle on a sticky. I think it is even called Newbie Cycle.

[southmadejd]

Maybe in an ideal world, but at the same time this forum is here for people to learn about AAS, and in a roundabout way somebody has been advised about a cycle. Sure it took up some of your time, but I don't think it has affected you too much. If it was just a case of logging on and reading stickies there wouldn't be much discussion, would there? Which would defeat the purpose of this forum, I guess?

At the same time, safety comes first, so ofcourse any 'newb', myself included, appreciates the sentiment of more experienced members in cases like these.

Either way, everybody is a "newb" at some point...
Sure though, research is KEY with AAS.

Nilrac I wasn't trying to sound like a smart ass to him....all I am saying is that everyone is a newbie at one point or another. If he would read the stickies in the forums then he wouldn't even be asking these questions. I don't mind answering his questions because I feel like I am helping him out a little bit but the stickies are there for a reason and the Vets don't just put them there to look pretty.

[JAN808]

alright will do, i just thought its better to ask directly because i have already started the cycle but thnx for the advice guys

[southmadejd]

alright will do, i just thought its better to ask directly because i have already started the cycle but thnx for the advice guys

You said today was your first day so just stop taking the cycle and research....you should be fine. Good luck on your future gains.

[nilrac]

Nilrac I wasn't trying to sound like a smart ass to him....all I am saying is that everyone is a newbie at one point or another. If he would read the stickies in the forums then he wouldn't even be asking these questions. I don't mind answering his questions because I feel like I am helping him out a little bit but the stickies are there for a reason and the Vets don't just put them there to look pretty.

Oh, I know man, it's cool. I think you have given some great advice. If he read the stickies you wouldn't have been able to give that advice at all though. That was my point. Peace.