My 2nd cycle draft #1

[Vegas1973]

I did my first cycle from about July 21 - Oct 12th. Decent gains. I put on 15 pounds. Here's a rundown.

Started out 191lbs at 18% bodyfat.

Cycle was
1 - 12 Test C 400mg (about week 4 I upped it to 500mg and kept it there)
1 - 10 Deca 300mg

PCT was HCG for 10 days starting 10 days after my cycle ended. Day after finishing last shot of HCG I did this:

1 - 3 clomid 100mg day
4 & 5 clomid 50mg day
1 - 5 nolvadex 20mg day

My body reacted well to compounds. I didn't have many sides that I noticed. Did have some acne toward end of cycle, and continuing on PCT. But thats gone now.

All said and done now, four months later. I'm back down to 196, but my bodyfat is right at 13% So I lost a good bit of fattage. I think while I cut down I lost some muscle too. Not a huge write your congressman amount...But some.

I want cycle two to be a bread and butter style mass builder. Here's what I have in mind.

1 - 4 40mg ed Dbol
1 - 12 600mg Test C
1 - 11 600mg Deca

My PCT seemed to be really successful, so I'd run as close to the same as possible.

Before I got my test and deca from a HRT clinic. So it was all 100% legit. I'll do that again, just so I have legal scripts for that stuff. I don't know yet how I'll come by the Dbol, but I think that would be a hell of a kickstart, and help me to make some solid gains from this second cycle.

I think my first cycle could have been much more effective if I had been eating more. I was super concerned about fat, and just didn't eat enough. I probably took in about 2700 or so calories a day at 50% protien - 30% fat - 20% carbs. I'm not going to begin cycle 2 without having my diet dead on. I'm shooting for 3500 cals a day with similiar macros.

Thank you as usual in advance for any suggestions on this up coming cycle.

Vegas

[axemurderer187]

not bad, maybe run a little more test...

i personally run 750/400 (test/deca) ratio..good luck

[briancb1]

Diet is key

[Vegas1973]

Very true, I learned the hard way. Not this time round.

[Vegas1973]

not bad, maybe run a little more test...

i personally run 750/400 (test/deca) ratio..good luck

Thanks.

[Vegas1973]

600 Test Cyp.
600 Deca.

I have some winny that I never used from my first cycle, which I will probably get rid of. This is going to be strictly a bulking cycle.

[SMAN12b]

need to cut the deca two weeks before the test

[brass-man]

I agree about stopping deca 2 weeks before the test. Nandrolone is a very suppressive compound.

Your dosages look fine to me for a second cycle, if a little high on the oral end. Having not used Dianabol before, you might want to start with 20mg/day split up into two doses and see how that works for you. Don't "get rid" of the winny. Save it for a rainy day. Steroids are very stable compounds and "expiration dates" are in a lot of cases just there because they need to be.

Contrary to popular belief there is no biological evidence for running other compounds lower than your testosterone. You don't need any specific "ratio" of test to any other compound to avoid "shutdown". As long as you've gone some floating around in your system, that's all you need.

There are however other reasons that some people are unable to perform in the bedroom that are related to steroids, like high blood pressure, and high prolactin levels.

[topnotch]

Looks good, except like SMAN said, i'd go 1-12 w/ the test, and 1-10 w/ the deca...

[axemurderer187]

I agree about stopping deca 2 weeks before the test. Nandrolone is a very suppressive compound.

Your dosages look fine to me for a second cycle, if a little high on the oral end. Having not used Dianabol before, you might want to start with 20mg/day split up into two doses and see how that works for you. Don't "get rid" of the winny. Save it for a rainy day. Steroids are very stable compounds and "expiration dates" are in a lot of cases just there because they need to be.

Contrary to popular belief there is no biological evidence for running other compounds lower than your testosterone. You don't need any specific "ratio" of test to any other compound to avoid "shutdown". As long as you've gone some floating around in your system, that's all you need.

There are however other reasons that some people are unable to perform in the bedroom that are related to steroids, like high blood pressure, and high prolactin levels.

I think his oral dosage is a good start, not at all too high. I've used 25mg dosages when i first started cycling and it was eh...... Then when I started doing a min of 40mg a day, the weight and strength jus exploded. Gave myself 5 more solid weeks of training and by that time everything kicked in. Worked out perfectly. I like to think of it as buying a corvette, what good is it to you if you don't drive it fast, ya dig?

[Vegas1973]

I think I might just compromise and meet in the middle. I'll do 11 weeks of Deca, and 12 weeks plus one shot of Test. That'll give me a week and a half between the final injection of Deca, and final of Test.