3rd Cycle all set (I Hope :))

[1006]

Hey guys, so after much thought i filalized my cycle...

Its going to last 10 weeks long with the following:

Week 1 -10 Test Cyp 500mg (Twice per week)
Week 1- 10 Deca 400mg (Twice Per week)

Regarding PCT

18days after last shot

2 weeks HCG 500iu per day
included with Nolva

Any comments on it that i can improve?

[Bigmax]

Looks decent bro...make sure your nutrition is on.

[topnotch]

If I were you, I would stop the Deca 2 weeks before the test...so i'd just run the test to week 12

[1006]

Can you tell me the dosage of Nolva, if i have to take it whilst on cycle or just for pct?

[Old man]

Hey guys, so after much thought i filalized my cycle...

Its going to last 10 weeks long with the following:

Week 1 -10 Test Cyp 500mg (Twice per week)
Week 1- 10 Deca 400mg (Twice Per week)

Regarding PCT

18days after last shot

2 weeks HCG 500iu per day
included with Nolva

Any comments on it that i can improve?

How about some Test Prop to kick it off.
And some Anavar to close your cycle.
You won't feel much at all for a month with just Cyp./ Deca

[topnotch]

I agree about a kickstart...it'll be frustrating...or maybe you can try frontloading instead and see how that works out for you...

[Bigmax]

Bro,IMO the cycle looks fine....if thats what you have layed out go for it....use the nolva for pct.

[1006]

well im planning on another cycle after this in mid summer, maybe i try prop in the next cycle too.. I had done my 1st cycle with 500mg test e for 8 weeks and i was quite happy with my results, i guess ten weeks with cyp and deca should give me even better results

[Bigmax]

Yes sir!!!...you dont need all kinds of compounds for a cycle...your first was one and you did good...now you're 2 compounds ...very good thinking bro...props to you.

[1006]

can some1 tell me the dosage of nolva pls and if i should take it before or after cycle

[Bigmax]

Bro,you said it was pct 20mgs aday would suffice.

[1006]

yeah, i wasnt sure wheather i should take it during my cycle or after.. some tell you to take it with the cycle and the rest say with your pct..

[1006]

did anyone try this cycle bdw? good gains?

[trenzbyotch]

only your training and diet will dictate gains but that is a nice solid 2nd cycle..and many have done it including myself..

[armbar83]

looks good

[SuperLift]

You most likely wont need to take it during your cycle, but if you do see signs of gyno try 10-20mg ed.

[MuscleScience]

did anyone try this cycle bdw? good gains?

Im just finishing up a test E 600mg and deca 500 mg cycle in a couple weeks. I have had great strength gains I think as of now my max on my bench is up something like 60 or 70 lbs. My squat is very similar and still going up on both. Put on about 20 lbs and I would say 10-12 is muscle. Taking nolva 10 mg a day cause im retaining water from the deca. Its pretty obvious when i dont take it I swell like a balloon. No sides to speak of other than a little acne but that happens to me when I up the cardio anyway. I am leaner and lots more vascular from when i started. I think you will be happy with this cycle. I however wish in looking back I would have kickstarted it with prop or dbol because the gains really didnt start until week 5 or 6. Good luck

[jdm95lude]

Looks good man props. Like BigMax said just save Nolva for PCT hes a wise man. Good luck!

[1006]

Hey ppl.. Slight problem.. will i mess up my cycle if instead of 1-10 weeks test and 1- 8 weeks cyp i do:

1- 10 weeks test c ( 200mg sundays 200 thursdays)
1-8 weeks deca (200mg sundays)

i noticed that i wont afford it bugger

[1006]

Guys??? i need to order tonight is it still good or ill mess it up

[Swifto]

Save up for all the compunds you need. Dont rush things and cut corners.

Where is your AI, when "on" and for PCT?

[Bigmax]

Bro,wait to you're in a better position to do the cycle...200mgs of deca is good for joints alone...

[1006]

so you telling me i should do instead of one shot a week and two shots of test a week, to two shots and two test a week? Will one shot deca make such a diff ?

[Bigmax]

What I'm saying is looking at what you are typing...you might need to wait a bit on the proposed cycle...cause anything under 400mgs of deca weekly is a waste.

[1006]

so the cycle is useless now with just 200 deca and 400 test c a week ..

[SMAN12b]

not useless, but it is a waste!

seriously, if you can't run a proper cycle, then why put the undue stress on your body.

Wait until you can afford to have EVERYTHING including all your PCT and anchillaries BEFORE you cycle

Weeks 1-12 Test @ 500mgs/week in two shots, one every 3.5 days
Weeks 1-10 Deca @ 400mgs/week shot same time as test

and AI on hand to run throughout the cycle in case of bloat or gyno
all PCT compounds

This isn't a hobby, its a commitment.

[1006]

is there something else i can take instead of deca?

[Bigmax]

Stick to a test only cycle bro....Myself and SMAN are trying to tell you its best to wait but thats obviously NOT your intentions...Whats wrong with waiting abit???I did not become 280 ata low BF over nite and not in afew years either ...it took alot of years.

[Dog-Slime]

Depends on your goals but yes there are MANY other steroids.

[SMAN12b]

is there something else i can take instead of deca?

Dude, you are all over the place now. You are asking for our advice and we are giving you the BEST advice we can. But we can't force you to follow it.

As Bigmax, stated, if you are that anxious to do a "cycle" now, then just stick with a Test Only.

If you eat right and train heavy you will grow.

but honestly with the way you are sounding here, it doesn't seem like you have the discipline to do this the right way and that means you are gonna be unhappy with the results at best and screw up your HPTA at worst.

[1006]

Sorry about that, the thing is that i had to call my supplier by latest today.. but anyway... i would like to know, since deca is going to be the problem.. is it any good to drop it and go to shooting 3 times a week test c?

[SMAN12b]

calling your supplier should NEVER be a reason to start a cycle. Its your money, if he wants it , he will wait for it and not pressure you........

Test Cyp only need to be shot every 3.5 days. so twice a week is fine.

but it doesn't sound like you have everything you need covered.

What about PCT compounds? What about an AI during if its needed?

[1006]

yes yes PCT all set.. nono not my supplier, its that i will need to start on sunday to keep with the timing for the next cycle in summer.. PCT is ready too just the Deca problem

[brass-man]

Rule number one is never start until you have everything you need.

[topnotch]

If you have all your pct, then i'd try to do maybe 12 weeks of a test cyp cycle...maybe try frontloading it, since your not using a kick-start..sman said that the frontloading has done really well for him..and if it starts that quick, you could always drop it back to 10 instead of 12, although 12 would be best..imo

[jdm95lude]

Listen to everyone man make sure you have everything before you start. I've been waiting for 3 months to get everything lines up to get everything and just double check everything before I take the first stick. Be patient I know its hard but you have to have patiences.

[Swifto]

I know it works out expensive, but I try to have far more than I need for one cycle incase I run into issues. I homebrewing my next cycle and others and it should....Last 2007 cycling.

Get everything you need...And more.

If your dont want to use Deca, perhaps stacking on oral for the first 4-5 weeks with Test Enan for 12-14 weeks, again using an oral to end the final 4-6 weeks, before starting PCT? Just an idea.

[1006]

Yeah, i think im going to do a Test Cyp only cycle this time.. shooting every 2.5 days with 200mg.. frontloading with an oral such as dball is not my wish as i dont like all the bad stuff it does to you..

[SMAN12b]

Yeah, i think im going to do a Test Cyp only cycle this time.. shooting every 2.5 days with 200mg.. frontloading with an oral such as dball is not my wish as i dont like all the bad stuff it does to you..

3.5 days, not 2.5 !!

like Monday morning, and again Thursday night

[1006]

3.5 days with 200mg? was thinking of going 600mg per week every 2.5 days..