Test Prop and Winny Cycle, Help PLease

**achesr** · 02-21-2007, 10:21 AM

This will be my first cycle. I am going to do a cycle of Test Prop and Winny...how long do you guys recommend I stay on cycle? Also, what dosage should I take each at and what kind of PCT are we looking at ?

I appreciate any responses fellas.

**JackedOut** · 02-21-2007, 11:07 AM

well im No Pro... but From the shit i know about it... Prop and Winny Sapose to be shot every other day... Depending on the Dosage of your Shit.. and how much you want to take....
if its normal 50mg winny... and 100mg prop... i would run the both every other day or 2-3times a week.. like Prop Mon.wens.Fri winny Tues.Thrus.saturday

**shredzs** · 02-21-2007, 11:25 AM

go with 50mg winny, 100mg prop eod, 6-8 weeks
50mg clomid ed and 20mg nolva ed, 1000 mg tribulus, for pct
start pct 3 days after last shot
nice, light beginners cycle

**achesr** · 02-21-2007, 05:22 PM

thanks fellas...anyone else ?

**Bigmax** · 02-21-2007, 05:34 PM

Bro,dont know what they are talking about but winny for optimal use is best administerd ED...the life is 8-10 hours so shot twice daily every 9 hours would be best...the prop can ge injected every other day...For 1st cycle thats alot of shots...IMO stick with test first to see how your body responds...

**achesr** · 02-21-2007, 06:09 PM

not a bad idea at all with starting with just test prop w/o the winny. so how many milligrams of test prop would i have to take EOD and how long of a cycle do you think would be good for test prop ? also...what about PCT? thanks bro

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Bro,dont know what they are talking about but winny for optimal use is best administerd ED...the life is 8-10 hours so shot twice daily every 9 hours would be best...the prop can ge injected every other day...For 1st cycle thats alot of shots...IMO stick with test first to see how your body responds...

**JackedOut** · 02-21-2007, 09:47 PM

wow i just learned something.. Winny Twice a day.. ED?

**trenzbyotch** · 02-21-2007, 10:00 PM

how about some stats?? training hx, etc..and how about you do a bit of research and propose something. we will then try to help you out best we can.. at this point don't sound like you know anything about the game..not flaming, but damn do some homework bro... use the search button up top

**southmadejd** · 02-21-2007, 10:30 PM

Have you already bought the gear yet? If you have I would save it and just get some Test E and shoot 500-600 mgs once a week. That way you could get used to giving yourself a shot and it is going to be hell with your first cycle and having to take a shot everyday.....plus you don't know how your body is going to react to either of those compounds. Just take Test E and take 40 mgs of D-Bol for 5 weeks ed to help jumpstart your gains. After that cycle then you should try Prop.....which you will love.

**achesr** · 02-21-2007, 11:46 PM

i appreciate you lookin out like that man, my first priority is to be safe with this stuff...so thanks again. the only thing about test e and dbol is that i am already as big as i want to get so i wouldnt want to put on more size with them. so that leaves me at beginning with test prop and winny...what u think?

stats: 185 lbs, 5'9" .... lift 5-6 days a week and cardio 20 minutes a day 5 days a week.... max bench: 300

Originally Posted by southmadejd

Have you already bought the gear yet? If you have I would save it and just get some Test E and shoot 500-600 mgs once a week. That way you could get used to giving yourself a shot and it is going to be hell with your first cycle and having to take a shot everyday.....plus you don't know how your body is going to react to either of those compounds. Just take Test E and take 40 mgs of D-Bol for 5 weeks ed to help jumpstart your gains. After that cycle then you should try Prop.....which you will love.

**achesr** · 02-21-2007, 11:47 PM

Bodyfat: around 8-10%

**SMAN12b** · 02-22-2007, 12:30 AM

Originally Posted by Bigmax

Bro,dont know what they are talking about but winny for optimal use is best administerd ED...the life is 8-10 hours so shot twice daily every 9 hours would be best...the prop can ge injected every other day...For 1st cycle thats alot of shots...IMO stick with test first to see how your body responds...

^^^thats your answer^^^

BUT,

well lets start with what are your goals for this cycle if you are already as big as you want to be?????

maybe steroids aren't for you if you don't want to get any bigger

**achesr** · 02-22-2007, 02:03 AM

i just want to get shredded ... i am cut but not completely ripped. i wnat to look ripped as shit...that's basically my goal

**achesr** · 02-22-2007, 02:03 AM

(without adding mass)

**snowman** · 02-22-2007, 02:14 AM

Originally Posted by achesr

i just want to get shredded ... i am cut but not completely ripped. i wnat to look ripped as shit...that's basically my goal

then diet and cardio, should be the Key, not steroids ...

**fabry** · 02-22-2007, 03:15 AM

first of all i think you should search around as there are a lot of 3d regarding
prop and winny cycle
anyway i would go with:
1-8 prop 75mg ed or 150eod
3-8 winny 50mg ed
then check for pct... anti e's... liver protectants... etc etc

**SMAN12b** · 02-22-2007, 03:53 AM

LOOK for the last time. for YOUR specific goals, you do NOT need steroids !

You can get a ripped body in 12 weeks of just diet and training especially since you do not want to add any size. You would have to diet and train for 12 weeks on an AAS cycle so why waste the gear and screw with your hormones?

Attached is a picture of ME at 33 ALL NATURAL (9years ago) after a 12 week contest diet I went from 15% bf to 3% bf with NOTHING more than just diet and training NOT ONE STEROID or prohormone!!!

do what you want, but if you do a cycle you are just wasting it!!! GOOD LUCK

**achesr** · 02-22-2007, 02:46 PM

cool man , good advice i think ill stay away from aas for now then and see how it goes

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

LOOK for the last time. for YOUR specific goals, you do NOT need steroids !

You can get a ripped body in 12 weeks of just diet and training especially since you do not want to add any size. You would have to diet and train for 12 weeks on an AAS cycle so why waste the gear and screw with your hormones?

Attached is a picture of ME at 33 ALL NATURAL (9years ago) after a 12 week contest diet I went from 15% bf to 3% bf with NOTHING more than just diet and training NOT ONE STEROID or prohormone!!!

do what you want, but if you do a cycle you are just wasting it!!! GOOD LUCK