Tbol and Hair, concerns...

**convalescence69** · 02-22-2007, 10:18 AM

Alright, I got my order of Tbol, and before i start using it, I'd like some feedback from people regarding Tbol and hair loss, if there is any such concern. I read some people use finasteride or dutasteride while on it, but is that necessary? Is Tbol a DHT derivative?
I have some Dutasteride handy just in case, and I read that Beta Sitosterol is another good natural dht blocker and have that handy too.

**brass-man** · 02-22-2007, 12:00 PM

Turinabol is not known for its androgenic effects. It is fairly mild in this aspect. However, I think it's important to get this out in the open.

Any steroids that lack a 4-5 double bond cannot be changed by the 5-alpha reductase enzyme, that is, the enzyme inhibited by fina/dutasteride. This enzyme cleaves the 4-5 double bond, turning testosterone into DHT.

Not only this, but in some compounds, cleaving the 4-5 bond actually reduces their androgenic properties, rather than enhancing them. Nandrolone is one of these if my memory serves me correctly.

Turinabol lacks the 4-5 double bond. It is not affected by 5-alpha reductase, and therefore is not affected by fina/dutasteride use one way or the other.

In this spirit, we can only really say that fina/dutasteride will eliminate the possibility for hairloss on cycle if testosterone is the only compound you're using.
alles klar?

**Johny-too-small** · 02-22-2007, 12:04 PM

I have no issues w/ hair loss or balding, however, when I took tbol in my last two cycles I really had an itchy scalp and noticed extra sheding for a week or two. Go figure.

**Getbig06** · 02-22-2007, 12:17 PM

Tbol is not a dht

**brass-man** · 02-22-2007, 12:34 PM

Originally Posted by Getbig06

Tbol is not a dht

Not technically no, but it doesn't have the 4-5 double bond either. People need to start thinking away from "is it a DHT or no?" because that's not the whole story. Not even close. See my above post.

**convalescence69** · 02-22-2007, 01:16 PM

Good stuff guys, thanks a ton, keep it coming

**randy6969** · 02-26-2007, 02:39 AM

i did 2 tbol cycles and i didn't notice any hair loss. The first cycle i ran i noticed more shedding while shampooing my hair then normal.... so i started using nizoral 2% everyday and no shedding at all.... im pretty paranoid about running big cycles...my last cycle i think my hairline receded a little....:-( (dbol , test, deca ) i was planning on doing tbol alone next cycle with nizoral....

**convalescence69** · 02-26-2007, 03:09 AM

Thanks man, where would I snag myself some Nizoral?

**magic32** · 02-26-2007, 07:50 AM

Originally Posted by convalescence69

Thanks man, where would I snag myself some Nizoral?

Virtually anywhere.
It comes in an OTC 1%, and a prescribed 2% version.

M.

**magic32** · 02-26-2007, 07:53 AM

Originally Posted by brass-man

Not technically no, but it doesn't have the 4-5 double bond either. People need to start thinking away from "is it a DHT or no?" because that's not the whole story. Not even close. See my above post.

Very good point!

Many think DHT is the sole cause of hair loss.

M.

**getdowntoit** · 02-26-2007, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by magic32

Very good point!

Many think DHT is the sole cause of hair loss.

M.

What else causes it barring stress?

**Z-Ro** · 02-26-2007, 09:58 AM

Originally Posted by getdowntoit

What else causes it barring stress?

From what I have read DHT, Stress, Estrogen, fluctuation of your hormones, the compound itself as in the case of Tren , I even heard that increased levels of IGF will cause your hair to shed. There are so many factors as stated above than just DHT. Those are just a few I remember reading off the top of my head.

**randy6969** · 02-26-2007, 02:00 PM

Originally Posted by convalescence69

Thanks man, where would I snag myself some Nizoral?

u can order the 2% off the internet...theres a great canadian websiite that sells it.... thats were i get mine from... search for nizoral 2% on google.com

good luck...

and when u use it.. use it after u workout clean ur scap with it for a min. leave it on ur scap for an additional 4 mins then rinse... u can also follow with a good conditioner from Nioxin or something.

**getdowntoit** · 02-27-2007, 10:09 AM

ive got nizorol but i don't know if it's 2%, it just says ketoconazole 20mg/g

**doittoit** · 02-27-2007, 03:30 PM

if u run tbol hairloss should be the least of your concerns, and if u shed on that shit good luck with any other gear

**Billytk03z** · 02-27-2007, 04:50 PM

Ive ran tbol at 60mg ed for the past 5 weeks and no hairloss, I may have however receded just a tiny bit in the temple area but I am totally sure..... but I was taking finasteride which I think hurt my overall hardness... my strength still skyrocketed tho....... as of now for the next 4 weeks I have added test prop w/ the tbol.....