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    No Clen anymore?

    There are few treads speaking about the effect of Clen on Heart cells, causing permanent necrosis. So do you think you will stop using it from now on?
    Personaly i will stay away from it... Time to go back to ECAY

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    ECAY - such as what?

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    yea i don't use it cuz well, i hate the way i feel when on it. however, like any other drug, you have to be responsible and not abuse.. you loose brain cells everytime you drink, but that ain't gonna stop most people from drinking.. anyway, ecay stack is what i use when cutting and to me it works just as well as clen without all the sides..

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    Do you make your own ECAY stack or is there a good prepared one that you like to use?

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    That study about heart cell death was done in rats, with absurd dosages comparatively to humans. I am not saying it doesn't happen, but I doubt a drug would be accepted for human use if there was a real danger that such thing might happen. If it was a very profitable drug...maybe, but clen is cheap as sh*t.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MuscleHead320lb
    Do you make your own ECAY stack or is there a good prepared one that you like to use?
    I buy all things separately... Actually i don't use Ephedrine but pseudoephedrine in a larger dose...

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    Quote Originally Posted by hugovsilva
    That study about heart cell death was done in rats, with absurd dosages comparatively to humans. I am not saying it doesn't happen, but I doubt a drug would be accepted for human use if there was a real danger that such thing might happen. If it was a very profitable drug...maybe, but clen is cheap as sh*t.
    Read here: The Rise and Fall of Clenbuterol

    Dunno but i still prefer the old ECAY stack, at least his sides are wellknown..

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