Is a couple bubbles in the syringe gonna kill me?

[JPNUTZ]

I had a cc of deca and a cc of cyp in the syringe and it was completely bubble free. but when i aspirated i drew some blood so its when i switched the needle and tried again is where i picked up some air but i didnt want to just throw it out so i injected anyways there were two bubbles the size of a small freckle should i be ok. where will that air go? thanks

[kaberle_15]

You will be fine, it takes a lot more air than that to seriously harm you. Some guys leave a bubble in there to get all the gear out.

[pavlenko]

dude i have seen people inject air bubbles IV and be perfectly fine, it will take prolly a full CC of air IV to make u feel maybe alil shitty or something but nothing major

[Kale]

dude i have seen people inject air bubbles IV and be perfectly fine, it will take prolly a full CC of air IV to make u feel maybe alil shitty or something but nothing major

Actually it takes about 20cc to kill you. So as you say, a little bit wont do shit. I leave air in the syringe to ensure I get all the juice out. I just fart a lot for an hour or do

[frank12391]

I just fart a lot for an hour or do

lol lol

[deadliftin00]

I just fart a lot for an hour or do

lol.


Like everyone said man, some air in an IM injection isn't going to do shit.

[kobiack]

haha... these threads always make me laugh, it's bitter sweet, but amusing none the less.

bro, i know hind sight is twenty-twenty, but shouldn't you already know the answer to your question BEFORE you start shooting up>?
just a thought...

[Seattle Junk]

You're gonna die.

[MikeCman]

im not positive bout injecting air in muscles, but im pretty sure the myth that you will die is from injecting air into a vein. and agian i say myth bec. it takes alot of air to cause some type of reaction and notice i didn't say death. When air is injected in the vein it gets turned into many microscopic air bubbles and enters the heart causing turbulence. This may cause you to feel dizzy or nausious but usually not death. Injecting air into a muscle will prob do nothing except poss. increase the chance of infection...

[helium3]

im not positive bout injecting air in muscles, but im pretty sure the myth that you will die is from injecting air into a vein. and agian i say myth bec. it takes alot of air to cause some type of reaction and notice i didn't say death. When air is injected in the vein it gets turned into many microscopic air bubbles and enters the heart causing turbulence. This may cause you to feel dizzy or nausious but usually not death. Injecting air into a muscle will prob do nothing except poss. increase the chance of infection...

ive heard 10cc's into a vein will kill you,read it somewhere.

[helium3]

so i wouldnt worry about a little air,and as a previous poster said i like a little air it helps force the gear out.

[Kale]

SCIENCE IN CRIME DETECTION
DEATH BY AIR INJECTION
Dr. Anil Aggrawal


Technically known as cases of "air embolism". The word embolism comes from Greek en, "in," and ballein, "to throw or cast". Henceforth we will be using the term "air embolism".

Before telling anything further about death by air embolism, let us first understand a little bit about the way our blood circulates in our body. This is very essential to understand how a person is killed by injection of air. Our heart is comprised of 4 chambers. There are two chambers on the right and two on the left side. The chambers on the right side are known as right atrium and right ventricle, while the chambers on the left side are known as left atrium and left ventricle. Bad blood (deoxygenated) from legs, head, arms and in fact from every part of the body returns to the upper right chamber called the right atrium.

With each contraction of the heart the right atrium sends this bad blood to the right ventricle. The right ventricle, in turn, sends this blood to the lungs via pulmonary arteries. Do not let the complicated names baffle you. Just remember that atrium and ventricles are fancy sounding names of some chambers of the heart. Ventricle is a larger chamber than atrium. Also keep in mind that "artery" is the name of a conduit which takes the blood away from the heart while vein is the name of a conduit which brings blood to the heart. The word pulmonary comes from Latin pulmo, "the lung". Thus "pulmonary artery" refers to a conduit which takes the blood away from the heart towards the lung.

In the lung, the bad blood is purified (oxygenated). This is done by the help of the air which we breathe all the time. The pure blood is returned to the heart via pulmonary veins. The blood comes in the third chamber of the heart known as left atrium. Left atrium sends this blood to the left ventricle, which in turn, pumps this pure blood to the whole body via a very big conduit known as the aorta. The body organs use this pure blood, and when this blood becomes impure, it is once again returned to the right atrium. And thus the circulation goes on.
Now we are ready to understand how air embolism works. First of all we must appreciate that nature has made this whole system of circulation air-proof. This means that there is no way, air could enter this system of conduits and pipes. If somehow air could enter the system (such as by injection of plain air through a syringe), the air will form an "air lock" within the system. This "air lock" is quite familiar to plumbers and owners of diesel engines, where the normal flow of liquid through tubes is wholly or partially blocked by air. Quite in the same manner this air lock blocks the flow of blood through the arteries and veins, thus bringing the circulation to a halt. Let us make this a little more clear.

Air could be made to enter the circulation either through the arteries or through the veins. When an injection of air is given, the air bubbles start travelling towards the right atrium. From right atrium they keep travelling onwards till they come to the lung. Here the capillaries are too narrow to allow the big bubbles to pass. The result is that these bubbles get entangled in the blood vessels of the lung. The whole blood traffic stops and the person dies very quickly. In fact this bad blood can not be purified by the lungs, because the traffic of blood towards the lungs has been stopped. The body can not imagine that such a sinister thing has happened. It "thinks" that the blood is not getting purified because of lack of air. So it quickens the respiration. The person starts gasping. But nothing helps because the cause lies somewhere else and the person dies.

Now this is where discrepancies lie…in how much is needed. This article cited 200 mL (cc’s), which I think is an exaggeration. Other articles I have come across state wide ranges…anything from 20 mL to the above mentioned 200. I say about 20 mL, as an educated guess…and I read that in some nursing journal during schooling as well. 20 mL is approximately the length of an IV line…so those who’ve been in hospital can now envision how much is needed.

[Schmidty]

dude i have seen people inject air bubbles IV and be perfectly fine, it will take prolly a full CC of air IV to make u feel maybe alil shitty or something but nothing major

Ur full of shit
I saw a girl shoot 1/2 a cc of (U fill in the blank) and a little air got in the vain and nearly killed her. I watched the girl turn purple in a matter of minutes.

[Schmidty]

but IM ur fine

[GauchB]

I work in a hosp and casn tell you that not only will a small amount of air not hurt you IV/IM but in an im injection will tend to be a better choice for 100% substence injection.

As far as IV there are so many cases that come through the hosp with people doing H and almost dying but it is usually well lets be more honest 99.99999% bad drugs not air in needle, besides some who does die of an air embolism will not turn blue purple or whatever color you want to say and come back from it, if it is air induced to the point it affects you you will die!

[Schmidty]

I work in a hosp and casn tell you that not only will a small amount of air not hurt you IV/IM but in an im injection will tend to be a better choice for 100% substence injection.

As far as IV there are so many cases that come through the hosp with people doing H and almost dying but it is usually well lets be more honest 99.99999% bad drugs not air in needle, besides some who does die of an air embolism will not turn blue purple or whatever color you want to say and come back from it, if it is air induced to the point it affects you you will die!

She had her own beans and Ihad mine so Idont know if it was her bad batch or air but I know she changed colors. I thought she was gona die. But ur the 1 who sounds more educated in this kind of thing so Iwill asume for now on it was bad dope

[GauchB]

yeah it must of been, I unusally see this kinda crap alot at work.

Talking about this makes me realize how sh!tty my job can be.

[MikeCman]

but IM ur fine

Well i had a serious infection and was in the hospital for two weeks with IV antibiotics. I use to sit and watch huge air bubbles slowly work their way into my arm and guess what, Nothing happened. I talked to a few doctors at the time and they said its no big deal. They told me of a 11yr. that had an IV and their was air being pumped into his vein for around 20min before anyone noticed, and all that happened was he began to get dizzy!

[GauchB]

Well i had a serious infection and was in the hospital for two weeks with IV antibiotics. I use to sit and watch huge air bubbles slowly work their way into my arm and guess what, Nothing happened. I talked to a few doctors at the time and they said its no big deal. They told me of a 11yr. that had an IV and their was air being pumped into his vein for around 20min before anyone noticed, and all that happened was he began to get dizzy!

True because the air would have to be pushed into your vien at a extremely fast rate an IV veno set or burrette are controlled in the amount they can deliever, even a shock dose of 1000cc's dex to a diabetic patient still takes around 15 min to give the whole liter.

[Schmidty]

I was in the hosp ICU with a infection for about a month I think and saw the same thing. I told a nurce and she said that the iv puts the air in slow enough to were nothing bad will happen.

[GauchB]

Yeah that is the basis for the whole iv setup that we use well that and being able to adjust the drip rate as needed.

[getdowntoit]

Air bubbles in muscles don't mean shit, all they will do is pop, airbubbles into you vein is when you start praying to god.

[newbrew]

Ur full of shit
I saw a girl shoot 1/2 a cc of (U fill in the blank) and a little air got in the vain and nearly killed her. I watched the girl turn purple in a matter of minutes.

Well, I hate to break it to ya, but you're wrong, so he's not full of shit.

As a Firefighter Paramedic, I start IV's all day long. I probably give every patient at least a 1/2 cc by the time all small pockets of air in the IV line are injected into the body. Even after a good flush, there is usually still air in the line and I'd guess that it's easily a 1/2cc. 1/2cc is such a miniscule amount. 1/2 cc shouldn’t make anyone flinch. If she had a reaction to something she was injecting, I can guarantee you that it wasn’t caused from injecting air. I haven’t read or been educated on the exact amount of air required to kill someone, after all, how do you justify the study of injecting humans with large amounts of air? But like mentioned above, I have heard that it is roughly 10cc's per body pound, and I have heard that it can be in upwards of 100-200cc's. I wouldn’t feel comfortable injecting 10+ cc's, but Id have no problem with injecting myself with a full cc. Heck, if you and I worked at the same station and were arguing this exact topic, I'd prove it for a measly 5 bucks.

This would all, of course, depend on how fast the air was pushed and if she even injected into a vein. I'm not sure I could or would make the same argument about an artery.

What was she injecting? I'll assume heroin or something of the likes? Also, what vein did she inject into? What was her respiration rate? Did you guys even check to see if she was breathing? If it was heroin, that will depress the respiratory system and she can and will become cyanotic.

And to recap, you could easily inject your entire syringe of air into your glutes and not need to worry.

[plzr8]

And to recap, you could easily inject your entire syringe of air into your glutes and not need to worry.

but its NOT recommended

[jrotex]

a little bubble is no problem...May hurt a little though

[HeavyHitter]

Actually it takes about 20cc to kill you. So as you say, a little bit wont do shit. I leave air in the syringe to ensure I get all the juice out. I just fart a lot for an hour or do

I actually made a bet with someone and quoted your post!! Can you back this up? (pleease) lolol or im down 80 bucks!! thanks

[Kale]

I actually made a bet with someone and quoted your post!! Can you back this up? (pleease) lolol or im down 80 bucks!! thanks

How do I prove it to you,? You want I should put the fart in a fvcing jar and mail it to you ?