Dbol only cycle as a last resort.....

[dazbo]

Due to my work, I dont want to risk breaking too many laws etc, so my huge cycle of HGH, IGF, Tes, Var, T4 etc is on hold!

But, I want to do a cycle before summer. So, what I was thinking was, cos its easy to take tabs as oppose to pins etc, I could do a Dbol only cycle of 6wks. I was going to use as many things as poss to help with libido while on cycle. I was going to use clomid, nolva, tribulus/tong kat.

Do you think that would be OK? What I mean is, would it be better than nothing? And, how do you think my sex drive etc would be while on this cycle??

Thanks a lot

Darren

[davedizzle]

I looked into dbol only a while ago.
It's best run at high doses for SHORT periods of time, 4 weeks.
Or low doses for longer periods, 10+ weeks.

There was a guy on here who ran 25mg for 10 weeks and got great results. Most gains kept.

[Seattle Junk]

Due to my work, I dont want to risk breaking too many laws etc, so my huge cycle of HGH, IGF, Tes, Var, T4 etc is on hold!

But, I want to do a cycle before summer. So, what I was thinking was, cos its easy to take tabs as oppose to pins etc, I could do a Dbol only cycle of 6wks. I was going to use as many things as poss to help with libido while on cycle. I was going to use clomid, nolva, tribulus/tong kat.

Do you think that would be OK? What I mean is, would it be better than nothing? And, how do you think my sex drive etc would be while on this cycle??

Thanks a lot

Darren

How do you break the law by taking gear? Do you mean you might do something stupid and you don't trust yourself?

Let me be blunt. Dbol only cycle SUCKS and it's always beginners asking this question. Your super stack of GH and the kitchen sink is stupid too if this is your first cycle or close to it. All you need is test at about 500mgs ew and use your dbol at around 25mgs ed to jump start that cycle for the first 4-6 weeks.

[dazbo]

im not a beginner at this seattle as ive researched it all for over 2yrs and done 3 cycles total. Plus, I DID get to my genetic limit before I started cycling.

I havent done a cycle for a yr nearly now. I know I will only waste my money doing an AAS cycle only as no matter what I do PCT wise, I will always drop back to my genetic limit eventually, which is where im at now. The HGH/IGF is the only thing that will jump my genetics up a bit, muscular wise. So no, its not a stupid idea.

Also, I relaise beginners like to go for and ask about dbol only cycles, which I know is shit, but my question was, for a little extra until I do my main cycle, then is is better than nothing?!? Also, if youve researched into Dbol only cycles seattle, you will see although MOST people are against them and say theyre a waste of time, there are people who like them and their personal experiences tell them they worked for them. So, they obvioulsy arent 100% shit.

And, I say the illegal thing because i live in the UK, so use and posession is not illegal. I work in the US and will be on and off for a while for periods up to 6wks and offshore work is included in this. So, I dont want to risk taking needles and vials and stuff there with me because the risks are far too high.

[vitor]

For a D-bol only cycle
I would do a high dose short cycle(60-70mg a/day 4 weeks)
or a low dose longer cycle(15mg a/day 12 weeks.)

The middle ground where a moderat dose is used, which will still supress your hpta alot, and not give much gains is undersiable.

[dazbo]

I thnk i would do that Vitor, yes.

thanks

[donniebrasco]

why not one of the old otc things like superdrol / phera plex etc.

[dazbo]

didnt realise you could still buy those?? Also, I have about 400 M1Ts still that I never used but Ive jkept away from them due to them being so bad on the liver etc and the gains would more than likely be better using dbol, plus, I dont have any A1D to use with the M1T so I dont think that it would be anywhere near as good as dbol alone without the 1AD??

[dazbo]

I do jave some M4Ohn and Methyl-Dien if but not enough for a full cycle but if anyone knows which one of those two is used to raise libido (Like 1AD did for M1T) then I could add that in there??

thanks

[Jefferey]

Due to my work, I dont want to risk breaking too many laws etc, so my huge cycle of HGH, IGF, Tes, Var, T4 etc is on hold!

But, I want to do a cycle before summer. So, what I was thinking was, cos its easy to take tabs as oppose to pins etc, I could do a Dbol only cycle of 6wks. I was going to use as many things as poss to help with libido while on cycle. I was going to use clomid, nolva, tribulus/tong kat.

Do you think that would be OK? What I mean is, would it be better than nothing? And, how do you think my sex drive etc would be while on this cycle??

Thanks a lot

Darren

So what your thinking is wasting your money on a oral cycle only...Just send me the money, I put it to good use like buy some steaks for me and other memebers here on the board

[getdowntoit]

Sounds good man, I'll be doing dbol only this year in short sharp bursts.

[Schmidty]

ur better off waiting then hop on the test with the dbol to jump start ur cycle. other wise u would be wasting alot of dbol IMO

[GauchB]

I have only used dbol with other components.

I'm also not into orals only at all!!!

[dazbo]

The Dbols cost next to nothing so Im not fussed whether i waste them or not so I dont see that being the issue here.

As you can see, people have already chimed in on how they like dbol only/oral only so it cant be all that bad.

whenever this comes up, you always get an argument for both sides so why not give it a go? afterall. everyone reacts differently and in the end were all just experimenting with diff compounds and noone on here can say the know for definate that its a waste

[badboy247]

when u throw in a statment like that u gonna get a reaction that will be divided, the more informed people on here will try to advise u on what is scientifically and/or anecdotally more advantageous for giving u optimum gains. people will chime, of course they will. but its to help you. thats what this site is all about, trying to argue the toss is pointless because even if a mod wrote you an essay on "why what your doing is a waste" ud still go ahead and do it... so go ahead do what makes u happy bro. but please understand the guys on here are only trying to help.

[dazbo]

fair enough i wont bother with the Dbol only, I mite just use M1T/M-dien/M4ohn but I cant really see why that is any better or worse than dbol only?

[Mazzive_T]

i used 25mg dbol for 8 weeks. Strength gains were immense, but mass gains were only average.

[getdowntoit]

when u throw in a statment like that u gonna get a reaction that will be divided, the more informed people on here will try to advise u on what is scientifically and/or anecdotally more advantageous for giving u optimum gains. people will chime, of course they will. but its to help you. thats what this site is all about, trying to argue the toss is pointless because even if a mod wrote you an essay on "why what your doing is a waste" ud still go ahead and do it... so go ahead do what makes u happy bro. but please understand the guys on here are only trying to help.

That's proberbly what causes the most arguments when a mod or "experienced" user writes an essay why orals are bad on their own. Other people have done research on and off the web learning that orals only ARE a good way to start steroid therapy, then if you want to up the dosages or continue the cycle for a longer period, injectables then become a necsessity.

I for one don't plan on doing a long cycle anyway because of hair issues and a low tolerence to alchohol, therefore, injectables are just not appropriate for me ATM.

[getdowntoit]

The Dbols cost next to nothing so Im not fussed whether i waste them or not so I dont see that being the issue here.

As you can see, people have already chimed in on how they like dbol only/oral only so it cant be all that bad.

whenever this comes up, you always get an argument for both sides so why not give it a go? afterall. everyone reacts differently and in the end were all just experimenting with diff compounds and noone on here can say the know for definate that its a waste

It might only be a waste for sombody if they have allready done a cycle like:

Test E 500mg pw weeks 1-10
D-bol 40mg weeks 1-4
Deca weeks 1-10


and then go back to doing a small oral only, of course it would be a waste then cos the body has allready taken a lot more than this and it proberbly would not respond as much.

[GHO5T]

That's proberbly what causes the most arguments when a mod or "experienced" user writes an essay why orals are bad on their own. Other people have done research on and off the web learning that orals only ARE a good way to start steroid therapy, then if you want to up the dosages or continue the cycle for a longer period, injectables then become a necsessity.

I for one don't plan on doing a long cycle anyway because of hair issues and a low tolerence to alchohol, therefore, injectables are just not appropriate for me ATM.

How is it a good way to start AAS therapy, please expand

[Manpretty]

look Dbol only would not be a waste.......if you do any amount of research on the topic the only limitation youll find is that orals typically arent run as long as an inject cycle.

you will still gain and retain muscle in fact read this link nark explains the benifits and disadvantages of oral only cycles

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=277795

Ps dont listen to these parrots......im sure none have done any actually reseaech on the topic

[notorious_mem]

hello no oral cycles hello

[wjclinton]

This is from Anthony Roberts steroid profiles:

"In this study, done in the early 80’s, a very high dose of Dbol (100mgs/day for 6 weeks) decreased plasma testosterone to about 40% of it’s normal value, plasma GH went up about a third, LH dropped to about 80% of it’s original value, and FSH went down about a third also (these are all approximate numbers, for the sake of brevity, but you get the idea). Bodyfat did not go up significantly and Fat Free Mass went up anywhere between 2-7kgs (3.3kgs average gain). The researchers concluded that Dbol increases Fat Free Mass as well as increasing strength and performance. I can only agree, having found this to be the case for me when I did my first cycle (which was 6 weeks of dbol alone at 25mgs/day)…I gained roughly 25lbs and kept nearly ½ of it. Since then, Dbol has always had a special place in my heart…"

[Hephens]

Dbol only cycle can be done my mate got got crazy gains he gaind 36pounds in 2 months. He took anywere from 20-25mg/day for 2 months allthough his liver was sore, but he jsut ate traind really hard to achieve that.

[getdowntoit]

How is it a good way to start AAS therapy, please expand

Well a good way to start is using common sense, would you need so much gear for a first cycle? Whats your tolerence level? How long would you be cycling for? If you don't plan on taking a lot, orals will not be much of a theat to your liver, of course if you wanted to inject straight away then go for it, again you would not need to front load which seems to be the craze nowadays, even for the newbie. I don't belive in all this "saturate your recepters because your first cycle will be the best" How does that person know how he is going to respond if he has never taken stuff before?

[getdowntoit]

Damn I can't wait to get them pinkies down me, got a bit of an injury playing up at the moment though, I hope I don't get those pains around my chest again though when I do start on dbol again.

[elitetky]

orals only will work , but you are likely to pump water and fats into your muscles , injectable tests e or c will gives you the lean muscle you really looking for

because after your dbol cycle you will shrink back to where you are and down the 10years road you will not be the same as

Those who have injectable tests e or c only

tests e or c its the most basic gear of a cycle

you can try using dbol only but 10years down the road you wont be looking like the pros

one of the national bodybuilder i saw weight 90kg but he looked like 110kg+

[Manpretty]

orals only will work , but you are likely to pump water and fats into your muscles , injectable tests e or c will gives you the lean muscle you really looking for

because after your dbol cycle you will shrink back to where you are and down the 10years road you will not be the same as

Those who have injectable tests e or c only

+[/U]

lets get this straight......orals pump fat into your muscles????

oral gains are hard to retian?

Test C gains are lean????

MAN COME ON........these statements are not true.....if you dont know ill thank you not to comment

people are ridiciulous on here.....grain of salt people ....grain of salt

[Megaherz]

Regardless of what anyone says, I kicked a test e/deca cycle with a
lot of dbol, and swear I made the most gains from the dbol with
very little water retention, etc.... My ugl sells dbol in 50mg capsules
and I actually took one every 12 hours. Strength and size gains were
excellent but I had some noticeable hair loss because of the dosage
though a bunch seems to have come back.

[Seattle Junk]

i used 25mg dbol for 8 weeks. Strength gains were immense, but mass gains were only average.

You really shouldn't go over 6 weeks on a-17 orals as they are pretty hard on your liver. Orals should be used as jump starts and not the base of your cycle. Long ester injectables are the base of a good cycle. The orals are basically used to get immediate gains as we're waiting for the long ester AAS to kick in. I know most of us know that but you be surprised at how many don't.

[Manpretty]

You really shouldn't go over 6 weeks on a-17 orals as they are pretty hard on your liver. Orals should be used as jump starts and not the base of your cycle. Long ester injectables are the base of a good cycle. The orals are basically used to get immediate gains as we're waiting for the long ester AAS to kick in. I know most of us know that but you be surprised at how many don't.

squak

[IBdmfkr]

185lbs was your genetic limit? You got dealt some shitty genetics. What makes you think you can't gain naturally? Scared to put in the work?

[pwerfll1]

keep us posted on your results

[MuscleHead320lb]

185lbs was your genetic limit? You got dealt some shitty genetics. What makes you think you can't gain naturally? Scared to put in the work?

Yeah, what he said......^^^the truth^^^

[Tbone1975]

Due to my work, I dont want to risk breaking too many laws etc, so my huge cycle of HGH, IGF, Tes, Var, T4 etc is on hold!

But, I want to do a cycle before summer. So, what I was thinking was, cos its easy to take tabs as oppose to pins etc, I could do a Dbol only cycle of 6wks. I was going to use as many things as poss to help with libido while on cycle. I was going to use clomid, nolva, tribulus/tong kat.

Do you think that would be OK? What I mean is, would it be better than nothing? And, how do you think my sex drive etc would be while on this cycle??

Thanks a lot

Darren

Oral or injectable you're still in possession of a controlled substance, a felony, meaning you'd be f*cked either way if you got busted. You gotta know that right? I've never done an oral only cycle so I can't really comment on what your results would be. That is interesting how you went from a cycle with a million compounds in it to dbol only.

[pwerfll1]

Oral or injectable you're still in possession of a controlled substance, a felony, meaning you'd be f*cked either way if you got busted. You gotta know that right? I've never done an oral only cycle so I can't really comment on what your results would be. That is interesting how you went from a cycle with a million compounds in it to dbol only.

when and if u do bro

[Tbone1975]

Well a good way to start is using common sense, would you need so much gear for a first cycle? Whats your tolerence level? How long would you be cycling for? If you don't plan on taking a lot, orals will not be much of a theat to your liver, of course if you wanted to inject straight away then go for it, again you would not need to front load which seems to be the craze nowadays, even for the newbie. I don't belive in all this "saturate your recepters because your first cycle will be the best" How does that person know how he is going to respond if he has never taken stuff before?

I would hardly say a simple injectable/oral cycle such as 500 mgs test e for 10 weeks, 25-50 mgs of dbol for weeks 1-6, is "saturating your receptors" That is not a lot of gear LOL.

[pwerfll1]

im runnin 50mg d-bol ed & test e 500 a week

[getdowntoit]

orals only will work , but you are likely to pump water and fats into your muscles , injectable tests e or c will gives you the lean muscle you really looking for

because after your dbol cycle you will shrink back to where you are and down the 10years road you will not be the same as

Those who have injectable tests e or c only

tests e or c its the most basic gear of a cycle

you can try using dbol only but 10years down the road you wont be looking like the pros

one of the national bodybuilder i saw weight 90kg but he looked like 110kg+

obviously doing dbol only's will not make you look like the pros, I more or less allready stated that, "after your dbol cycle you will shrink back to where you are" heard it all before, complete rubbish.

[getdowntoit]

I would hardly say a simple injectable/oral cycle such as 500 mgs test e for 10 weeks, 25-50 mgs of dbol for weeks 1-6, is "saturating your receptors" That is not a lot of gear LOL.

It is compared to a dbol only at sensible doses