test e and test prop?

**Fordfan01** · 02-25-2007, 07:31 PM

i have a buddy who is on a cycle of test e for 12 weeks and he was asking me for some advice. He wants to add in test prop on his 6th week cause he thinks he can make even more gains. This is his first cycle and its at 400 per week. Wat u guys think?

**stuball** · 02-25-2007, 07:39 PM

Originally Posted by Fordfan01

i have a buddy who is on a cycle of test e for 12 weeks and he was asking me for some advice. He wants to add in test prop on his 6th week cause he thinks he can make even more gains. This is his first cycle and its at 400 per week. Wat u guys think?

How long in the cycle is he ?? Tell him to bump it up to 500 a week, most people use prop to start off a cycle or even use it the last part of the cycle, tell your boy to chill. Hes got plenty of time for other cycles.. By the way how old is this so called guy ??

BG · 02-25-2007, 07:44 PM

Tell him to start now and gradually decrease the test-e, ultimately ending cycle with prop and into pct sooner. Win/win if you ask me.

**canyonbyker** · 02-25-2007, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by Fordfan01

i have a buddy who is on a cycle of test e for 12 weeks and he was asking me for some advice. He wants to add in test prop on his 6th week cause he thinks he can make even more gains. This is his first cycle and its at 400 per week. Wat u guys think?

how much does your friend weigh...what kinda diet is he in? bf %? We need to know this stuff. Well, IMO, if he's gonna go with prop, he's gonna have to inject every 2-3rd day instead of weekly. Prop has a lower water retention level than Enan. Testosterone Enan aromatizes easily and has a high conversion rate to DHT. This can cause possible prostate problems or gyno and female pattern fat deposits, and water retention (plus high blood pressure). As far as strength gains, look at steroid .com's effectiveness chart, Enan and Prop have the same amount of strength and size gains. It wouldn't really matter if he switches. stick with 400/week IMO

**canyonbyker** · 02-25-2007, 07:46 PM

Originally Posted by BigGuns101

Tell him to start now and gradually decrease the test-e, ultimately ending cycle with prop and into pct sooner. Win/win if you ask me.

lol bro I like your signature!

**PROTEINSHAKE** · 02-25-2007, 07:47 PM

test is test.....i would also switch to prop towards the end half of the cycle.... remind him that the shorter ester has to be shot ED or EOD....no every 3.5days like testE

**stuball** · 02-25-2007, 07:49 PM

Originally Posted by canyonbyker

how much does your friend weigh...what kinda diet is he in? bf %? We need to know this stuff. Well, IMO, if he's gonna go with prop, he's gonna have to inject every 2-3rd day instead of weekly. Prop has a lower water retention level than Enan. Testosterone Enan aromatizes easily and has a high conversion rate to DHT. This can cause possible prostate problems or gyno and female pattern fat deposits, and water retention (plus high blood pressure). As far as strength gains, look at steroid.com's effectiveness chart, Enan and Prop have the same amount of strength and size gains. It wouldn't really matter if he switches. stick with 400/week IMO

Yes i do think we really need his stats...

**Fordfan01** · 02-25-2007, 07:53 PM

Originally Posted by stuball

How long in the cycle is he ?? Tell him to bump it up to 500 a week, most people use prop to start off a cycle or even use it the last part of the cycle, tell your boy to chill. Hes got plenty of time for other cycles.. By the way how old is this so called guy ??

well hes not a so called guy....lol i dont want to know for myself im happy with my cycle as is he is 7 weeks in and is 23 we are doin the same cycle however im only 5 weeks in and im making great gains but he hasnt put on wat he thought he would i think hes just wanting to finish up his cycle wit it i told him to just bump it up to 500 but he just seems to want use the prop

**Fordfan01** · 02-25-2007, 07:54 PM

23 prob 210 not sure on body fat but hes under 15

**canyonbyker** · 02-25-2007, 08:00 PM

Originally Posted by Fordfan01

23 prob 210 not sure on body fat but hes under 15

bro, he should be doing at LEAST 200grams of protein per day....how's his diet? the juice respons BETTER with a good diet...if he didn't get the strength gains he thought he could get, question his diet.

**Fordfan01** · 02-25-2007, 08:16 PM

from wat he is says his diet is very good 300g protein and 400g carbs 100g fat which is about 3400 cals should i tell him to bump it up even more?

**stuball** · 02-25-2007, 08:34 PM

Originally Posted by Fordfan01

well hes not a so called guy....lol i dont want to know for myself im happy with my cycle as is he is 7 weeks in and is 23 we are doin the same cycle however im only 5 weeks in and im making great gains but he hasnt put on wat he thought he would i think hes just wanting to finish up his cycle wit it i told him to just bump it up to 500 but he just seems to want use the prop

Tell your so called friend.. LOL Just f'n around..IMO, he really needs to make sure that diet is on spot, and if it was me i would stay with the 400mgs of e being hes 7 weeks in, than add the prop the last four weeks, but thats just me.

**Fordfan01** · 02-25-2007, 08:41 PM

Originally Posted by stuball

Tell your so called friend.. LOL Just f'n around..IMO, he really needs to make sure that diet is on spot, and if it was me i would stay with the 400mgs of e being hes 7 weeks in, than add the prop the last four weeks, but thats just me.

haha its always the friend right

yea ill make for sure his diet really is wat he says and ill mention the the prop for the last four weeks i think he just wants to use the prop cause he has it lol