SLEEP APNEA and steroid, for those of you who snore! LOL

[Pooks]

sorry my APA skillz are bad but this is from an article i ran into...

"Is there a risk to testosterone treatments? In some patients, testosterone-replacement therapy (TRT) can cause or worsen sleep apnea."

I have been diagnosed with Sleep Apnea and will have surgery on it. This is a big deal for me, and for anyone else out there who is doing steroids and has sleep apnea. The heavier we get, the chances of sleep apnea increase.
Also, if you have sleep apnea at current weight, it will worse as you pack on more mass.

Bottom line.. U need REST to grow..
if u have sleep apnea, (SNORE) you are not getting the proper rest when you sleep, you can't grow as much. Therefore, people with Sleep Apnea are capped at a certain weight I would argue.

If i were a betting man, i would say that in PCT.. a person who hasn't reached Sleep Apnea weight, will keep a lot more of his gains, than someone who has Sleep Apnea, and does not get the proper rest.

Sleep Apnea could explain why a lot of people lose all of their gains, and others are able to keep them.
Up to some level,, Personally i always run into Apnea at 220lbs (HEAVY SNORING).. and can maintain a 200lbs built just fine, but after that do have problems keeping gains.
This last part is a bit speculation, but i do not believe its not far fetched at all.

[cj1capp]

good luck with the surgery I had the same condition and had an operation called a UPPP it was the worst pain i have ever had in my entire life i wont lie say any thing less . But after the pain i and healing i now sleep great and am no longer tired in the day and my kids also can sleep through the night. They used to hear me snore through several walls.





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The uvulo-palato-pharyngoplasty (UPPP) and tonsillectomy are often performed as a part of Obstructive Sleep Apnea surgery. The UPPP procedure shortens and stiffens the soft palate by partial removal of the uvula and reduction of the edge of the soft palate. Since there may be other sites of restriction to breathing, such as the tongue base, the UPPP and tonsillectomy may not resolve the OSA. Most patients who snore, but do not have apnea should enjoy a dramatic decrease in loudness of snoring after UPPP.

Complications of the UPPP procedure are not common, but merit discussion. The palate is a valve which separates the nose from the mouth. This valve is like any other in that it may be broken and stuck in an open or closed position. A palate that no longer completely seals the nose from the mouth has the sound of excess nasal tones and possible leakage of liquids out of the nose. On the other hand, rare instances of severe scarring of the palate could potentially worsen the OSA and make speech unusually non-nasal sounding. Care is taken to avoid either complication by judicious planning and careful technical execution of the procedure. Some patients do note a foreign body feeling when they swallow after having had a UPPP and is due to scar formation.

The tonsillectomy can be an important component of surgery for OSA, especially if the tonsils are at all enlarged. The removal of redundant tissue by tonsillectomy increases the caliber of the throat thereby reducing blockage to breathing. Since the quality and quantity of tissue of the throat changes after tonsillectomy there can be a subtle alteration in voice quality. In a mature adult, pain following tonsillectomy can be unpleasant, but is reasonably well controlled with prescription medication. The UPPP and tonsillectomy remain a very important part of surgery to expand the upper breathing passage for treatment of OSA.

i also had at the same time

Nasal, Septal and Adenoid surgeries are sometimes performed in order to open the nasal breathing passages and permit easier breathing. The constant nasal airway obstruction is typically in contrast to the dynamic collapse seen at the level of the palate or tongue, but needs to be considered in every case of Obstructive Sleep Apnea airway reconstruction. Indeed, more than half of the OSA patient population will have findings of nasal airway compromise.
Reconstruction of the nose is called rhinoplasty and may be performed to enhance appearance or for functional reasons. The quality of the tissue around the nostrils or deeper in the nose can cause restricted breathing. Weak or malpositioned cartilages around the nostrils can impede nasal breathing as will a droopy nasal tip or excessively narrow nostrils. A "nose job" directed at improving breathing will also usually enhance appearance.

Adverse cosmetic and functional outcomes can sometimes be seen after rhinoplasty. Real and perceived cosmetic deformities are possible. The best result is the nose that looks natural for a given face.

The nasal turbinates are horizontal ridges within the nose. These may become chronically enlarged usually as a result of allergies. Reduction in the size of the turbinates will improve nasal air flow.

The nasal septum divides the nose into right and left nasal passages. A septal deviation is an alteration of the relatively straight and midline position of the septum. If the septum is crooked, it may cause blockage of the nasal breathing passage. It can be straightened in order to improve breathing and is called a septoplasty.

An enlarged adenoid may occasionally interfere with breathing. The adenoid is located in the very back of the nasal cavity above the soft palate. An adenoidectomy removes this excess tissue to allow for unrestricted airflow through the nasal passages and upper throat. Although this is most commonly performed in children, it may be indicated in teenagers or young adults.

[Pooks]

tnx CJ1..

I am probbably going to have Orthagnatic surgery..
where they'll move my lower jaw forward.
Cause i also do have a bit of an overbite

But have to see the Doc again, plus see what Blue Cross has to say about it! lol

yah i heard UPPP is painful, and kinda freaky too, when they pull the packin out thru your nose lol

[Benches505]

I've managed to have sleep apnea and maintain myself all the way up to 270lbs. I'm not sure how much sleep has to due with it...I think diet and training is more to blame for keeping or losing gains...also genetics.

[DARKSEID]

Mines gotten better since I've been dieting down. Waking up gasping for air def. was a big motivator in changing my priorities, just one of quite a few. Though I've never had issues with keeping gains.

[Seattle Junk]

Yeah, I really start to snore at 220lbs. I'm at 230lbs now and I'm snoring of course. But I will say my snoring was much worse when I was on GH. For some reason GH also increases the loudness and deepness of your snores. I have been off GH for a little over 2 months. I was on 4ius ed for 6 months before that.