BEST juice for MMA

[M5_AX_Mario]

Yo guys whats the best juice to use for MMA fighting... all my boyz tell me ANVAr DBOL TEST and clomid after the last week I have become very serouis about MMA. I use to wrestle in high school was reg champ one year and all my boyz tell me to do pride or UFC cuz I got pretty quick hands and never have backed down from a fight. I think I need some juice to jump start my training. thanks guys

[T3/T4 GSR]

If this is actually a serious question...how old are you and what have you used before and whats some of your lifting backround?

[M5_AX_Mario]

25 years old I have been lifting since I was 12-13. used andro, creatine,lots of whey protein

[IIIIIIIIIIII]

most likely gonna hear that your first cycle should be test only...

but i dont wanna be a parrot..


*SQQQUUUAAAAAAAAAK*

[T3/T4 GSR]

I usually recommend test and dbol as a first cycle. Most people don't like recommending two compounds the first time but most people like the combo since they start getting gains much faster with the dbol. Before I give any other info what is your goals? Just looking to bulk up a bit?

[M5_AX_Mario]

just want something to make become a better fighter in the near futre

[M5_AX_Mario]

I kinda wanna get a body like Silva from pride but with a lil bigger arms

[HardCharger]

From what I hear Sust makes you a good fighter!


Thats a joke by the way.

Steroids wont make you a better fighter bro. They will make you stronger though. IMO test is best for a 1st cycle. Since it's the one substance that all other steroids are based on, useing it alone for you first cycle will give you a good referance.... so you can determin how other steroids effect you if you decide to try others. but again thats JMO.

P.S. size and looks have nothing to do with fighting!!

[IIIIIIIIIIII]

lol... this thread is pointles..

no1 is going to be able to say... "take deca, if u want a ronnie coleman type bod" oh and toss in some HGH so ur a better fighter..

If you wanna be a better fighter, train more... if u want to toss in some agent to increase strength then go for it.. but nothing will make u "better".. thats all on you

[Hellmaskbanned]

[QUOTE=HardCharger]

Steroids wont make you a better fighter bro. QUOTE]


Thats like saying steroids won't make you a better football player, Sprinter, etc.

Of course steroids will make you better, if you know what your doing in the first place.

How could someone say they won't make you a better fighter? That's crazy. I could understand someone who's some retard and never fought before...that won't help , but the increase recovery from training, added strength and endurance. Of course He'll be better.

I'm taking he's at a high level if wanting to incorporate AAS.

Steroids won't make you a better bodybuilder.

[KAEW44]

just want something to make become a better fighter in the near futre

Even if you inject rocket fuel it will not make you a better fighter, i have seen your avatar pic before of you and your boyz and you posted on other forums, dude you are a disgrace to fighting and using steroids wont help you one bit, and steroids are banned and tested for in UFC and Pride if you ever think you will make it to these big events.

As for you wanting big arms like Silva, go watch what happened to Silva this last weekend as he got knocked the F-out by the smaller Dan Henderson.
How did steroids help him?

[IIIIIIIIIIII]

i have seen your avatar pic before of you and your boyz and you posted on other forums, dude you are a disgrace to fighting and using steroids wont help you one bit?

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[Hellmaskbanned]

Yo guys whats the best juice to use for MMA fighting... all my boyz tell me ANVAr DBOL TEST and clomid after the last week I have become very serouis about MMA. I use to wrestle in high school was reg champ one year and all my boyz tell me to do pride or UFC cuz I got pretty quick hands and never have backed down from a fight. I think I need some juice to jump start my training. thanks guys

Study in the AAS profile section.

Read on different types of AS.

See which fit your goals.

A good stack for an advanced user would be Test/EQ/Halo. IMO

But for you, I would go with a Test/Equipoise cycle if your not a tested athlete.

Test E or C 300mgs/week
EQ 400mgs/week

12-14 weeks


^
thats what I would do in ur shoes.

[M5_AX_Mario]

thanks for the help guys

[HardCharger]

So yes, steroids will make you bigger and stronger. Which in turn will make you hit harder. Yes, this will help in a fight. But, just because you hit hard doesn't make you a good fighter. It will improve one aspect of it but, it will not make you a better fighter. The only thing that will make you a good fighter is training.

[Hellmaskbanned]

So yes, steroids will make you bigger and stronger. Which in turn will make you hit harder. Yes, this will help in a fight. But, just because you hit hard doesn't make you a good fighter. It will improve one aspect of it but, it will not make you a better fighter. The only thing that will make you a good fighter is training.

No shit! Of course you have to train.

Thats like saying, steroids won't make you a better bodybuilder...the only thing that will make you a good bodybuilder is training.

It's fact that if you took 2 perfectly matched fighters. Training/weight/height all......there the same every way, and train the same.

If you had fighter A. do it natural and fighter B.added steroids.

Who do you think would be better?

Of course fighter B. would

But yes training, genes, technique all plays the major role. But if he has that down then adds AAS he will be better then what he was before.

[HardCharger]

why so angry?

[Hellmaskbanned]

why so angry?

I'm actually very humble and feel like the world is a very lovely place to be.

[HardCharger]

Hugs! Lets be friends.


I understand what you're saying. You're right! But if you take joe blow off the street who thinks he can fight and juce him all up.... he'll still have no chance in hell with someone who's been fighting pro for a while.

[IIIIIIIIIIII]

Hugs! Lets be friends.

Awwwwww!!! Soooo cute.. see AAS doesnt make everyone angry..thats love right there =]

[Hellmaskbanned]

Hugs! Lets be friends.


I understand what you're saying. You're right! But if you take joe blow off the street who thinks he can fight and juce him all up.... he'll still have no chance in hell with someone who's been fighting pro for a while.

Exactly bruh, you gotta be down with the shizzle before you injectizle.

[HardCharger]

Injectizle.....sounds dirty!

But it sounds like this kid thinks he can juice a little then try to go pro. I had a friend who did something like this. After his first cycle he thought he could go to amature fight night at a local bar.... he didn't do so good.... and i laughed at him!

[KAEW44]

The guy who started this thread obviously doesnt watch recent UFC or Pride shows because he would have learned that Juicing gets you caught and pretty much ends your career in the big shows these days.

The only two people who made a comeback after a steroid bust were Josh barnette who had to switch countries and events in order to be able to build himself up again.
And second was Tim Sylvia who managed to come back and get the title after getting a ban for steroids for a while, but ever since then he has never gained any popularity and is probably the most hated champ in UFC history!!

Both of these examples were back when the athletic commission was pretty leaniant on steroid use, but this year they are harsher than ever and they even test for recreational drugs (which i'm sure the threadstarter and his cronies are doing all the time). And when you get busted thats pretty much it, because being a fighter doesnt make much money as it is unless you are under the spotlight/championship/poster-boy, so when you get with a big fine and a one-year suspension thats pretty much over for a pro begginer!

[mma_badboy]

The guy who started this thread obviously doesnt watch recent UFC or Pride shows because he would have learned that Juicing gets you caught and pretty much ends your career in the big shows these days.

The only two people who made a comeback after a steroid bust were Josh barnette who had to switch countries and events in order to be able to build himself up again.
And second was Tim Sylvia who managed to come back and get the title after getting a ban for steroids for a while, but ever since then he has never gained any popularity and is probably the most hated champ in UFC history!!

Both of these examples were back when the athletic commission was pretty leaniant on steroid use, but this year they are harsher than ever and they even test for recreational drugs (which i'm sure the threadstarter and his cronies are doing all the time). And when you get busted thats pretty much it, because being a fighter doesnt make much money as it is unless you are under the spotlight/championship/poster-boy, so when you get with a big fine and a one-year suspension thats pretty much over for a pro begginer!

A lot of MMA fighters use AAS, they just don't get caught!

[Hunter]

A lot of MMA fighters use AAS, they just don't get caught!

I know a few pro's most did early on in there career but do not do anymore HGH is very popular though.

[graciehunter]

stay away from deca if you get to the point of being tested.
winny is really the athletes gear, look at the sprinters and as a fellow mma fighter I will take lean spead over anything. add sustenon but stop 2 months before testing.
also andriol is out of the system in 24 and propinate is out in 3 days, all good for lean but winny is my favorite. plus you can shoot it tright into your calves if you need some extra speed there etc.
If you want to avoid all testing then just fight in Japan where they only test for rec drugs.
ALL MMA PROS TAKE SOMETHING, or have never ranked.

[graciehunter]

oh yeh, MN fighter makes a really good point, no detection for hgh and it really heals up injuries etc.

[saturn08]

Yo guys whats the best juice to use for MMA fighting... all my boyz tell me ANVAr DBOL TEST and clomid after the last week I have become very serouis about MMA. I use to wrestle in high school was reg champ one year and all my boyz tell me to do pride or UFC cuz I got pretty quick hands and never have backed down from a fight. I think I need some juice to jump start my training. thanks guys

yeah go fight in PRIDE- I wanna see.
But serious though, I have started training a while ago and I am taking test cyp, dbol and T3. Notice some strength and what not, but its still hard as hell, especially while trying to bodybuild at the same time. If you honestly wanna get an edge in fighting, build up your endurance, do lots of cardio, you need stamina man, and I dont know if that comes from juice.

[Dude-Man]

The best juice for MMA is probably pommegranite.

[SVTMuscle*]

Test E and some Deca is always a good start

[Calyptus]

ok, first off, forget most things that were said here... there is a lot of crap written in this topic, most people seem to forget that mma is different from bodybuilding.

Steroids won't make you a good fighter, but it might make a good fighter a top fighter. And as far as I know, steroids aren't illegal in Japan, and there are no tests in Pride and K1 when fighting in Japan.

Onto doses, you do NOT want to get a dose equal to a bb.
Your main goal is to gain strenght, endurance and faster recovery, maybe a bit of mass depending on your goal. The 300-500mg/week-range is the best. You'll want to go on shorter cycles, 4-8weeks , because you do not want to crash too much after the cycle. Because of the shorter cycles, shorter esters might be more suitable.

Onto substances, depends if you are tested or not. Probably of the best substances are test, bold and halo and masteron. They will add to your endurance and strength, while giving no to very little bloat at the dosage.

Winstrol and Trenbolone are adored by some, hated by others.
Winstrol cause of the possible joint pain, and trenbolone, while THE steroid for strength, because of the decreased endurance. With trenbolone you do not want to go above about 150mg/week. Above, it'll eat away your endurance, while below that lvl you might get away with minor to no side-effects concerning your endurance.

Some people like deca for injury recovery and joint pain relief, but the long detection time makes this a no-no if you're in a tested organisation. The possible bloat is also something you should avoid while fighting in mma. Same goes for dianabol and oxy.

Anavar would be ok at low doses, but the big pumps are just too brutal and hinder your fighting ability.

Oh, and one last thing. NEVER stop your fight training when juicing. You'll lose a lot of sport specific strength that way.


Some nice cycles would be

4 weeks
50mg tren ace eod
75mg test prop eod
10-15mg halo ed

6 weeks
150mg test e ew
150mg boldenone ew
10-15mg halo ed

My personal favorite, and easy on the cash

5 weeks
75mg super tren E3D (quite new local brew, you might not find that where you live, contains tren a, e and parabolan)
125mg test E e3d

week 5 and 6
50mg masteron eod

during all 7 active weeks t3 at 25mcg ed

PCT is the same as regular BB cycles

[Sepsis]

read through this thread. it is an interview with a trainer who sets up cycles for many mma guys. he soundds like he knows his shit as far as performance enhancment while trying to make weight!


http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=280263

[Hellmaskbanned]

ok, first off, forget most things that were said here... there is a lot of crap written in this topic, most people seem to forget that mma is different from bodybuilding.

Steroids won't make you a good fighter, but it might make a good fighter a top fighter. And as far as I know, steroids aren't illegal in Japan, and there are no tests in Pride and K1 when fighting in Japan.

Onto doses, you do NOT want to get a dose equal to a bb.
Your main goal is to gain strenght, endurance and faster recovery, maybe a bit of mass depending on your goal. The 300-500mg/week-range is the best. You'll want to go on shorter cycles, 4-8weeks , because you do not want to crash too much after the cycle. Because of the shorter cycles, shorter esters might be more suitable.

Onto substances, depends if you are tested or not. Probably of the best substances are test, bold and halo and masteron. They will add to your endurance and strength, while giving no to very little bloat at the dosage.

Winstrol and Trenbolone are adored by some, hated by others.
Winstrol cause of the possible joint pain, and trenbolone, while THE steroid for strength, because of the decreased endurance. With trenbolone you do not want to go above about 150mg/week. Above, it'll eat away your endurance, while below that lvl you might get away with minor to no side-effects concerning your endurance.

Some people like deca for injury recovery and joint pain relief, but the long detection time makes this a no-no if you're in a tested organisation. The possible bloat is also something you should avoid while fighting in mma. Same goes for dianabol and oxy.

Anavar would be ok at low doses, but the big pumps are just too brutal and hinder your fighting ability.

Oh, and one last thing. NEVER stop your fight training when juicing. You'll lose a lot of sport specific strength that way.


Some nice cycles would be

4 weeks
50mg tren ace eod
75mg test prop eod
10-15mg halo ed

6 weeks
150mg test e ew
150mg boldenone ew
10-15mg halo ed

My personal favorite, and easy on the cash

5 weeks
75mg super tren E3D (quite new local brew, you might not find that where you live, contains tren a, e and parabolan)
125mg test E e3d

week 5 and 6
50mg masteron eod

during all 7 active weeks t3 at 25mcg ed

PCT is the same as regular BB cycles

Tren?

You said there was bad advice given but then you say the exact same cycle I posted already. Test/EQ/Halo.

Your short cycles with long esters idea is horrible.

Your advice is shitty imo.

[SVTMuscle*]

Wait.... does his name look familiar to anyone?!

[M5_AX_Mario]

thanks guys for all the help

[locowhiteguy77]

The best juice for MMA is probably pommegranite.

I concur.
After drinkin a bottle for pimmegranite, ready to take on the world.

[Calyptus]

Tren?

trenbolone obviously

You said there was bad advice given but then you say the exact same cycle I posted already. Test/EQ/Halo.

I said almost all advice given here is rubbish. Not all. I see guys giving high doses of deca.

Either way, I still think your doses are too high and the time on is too long.

Your short cycles with long esters idea is horrible.

Depends what you call short. Long cycles are not advised unless the athlete wants to stay on all the time. For mma, 7 weeks is already a long time, and will give u a serious post cycle-crash. And I only use test as a long ester, supertren has short and long esters, nice combination for a much cheaper price then buying both. Amateur or even most proffesional fighters don't have that much cash to spare.

If one had the money, I would always advice 4 weeks of short esters.

Your advice is shitty imo.

Well don't follow it then. I couldn't care less. As long as it helps the people I work with I'm very happy.

[mmawarrior]

A short cycle with halotestin is the best choice for MMA. You don't need loads of juice to fight. Most of the big time juicers have zip for endurance. Halo helps with strength big time AND endurance, and you won't put on any weight. Remember, you need to make weight to fight!

And NO juice will make you a better fighter if you can't fight. Skill doesn't come in a pill. Halo will make you aggressive, strong, and help with recovery in the final stages of fight prep.

[Cisco]

Tren absolutely kills your endurance to my knowledge..

[perfectbeast2001]

I would stick with test for first cycle. Great gains and an increase in strength and recovery time. That is of course based on the fact your diet and training are 100% on point.
Save the complicated cycles for later.

1-12 test E or C @500mg per week.
Keep an AI such as arimidex on hand in case of bloating/gyno.
Be sure to run a good PCT (you can find some good examples in the PCT forum stickies).
An increase in strength and agression should help with the fi***ng and of course better recovery time is great too, I would not advise any mma fighter to use winny as it is hell on the joints. For second cycle I would consider adding deca or NPP which will actually be beneficial for the joints. Halo would be a consideration to take in the week leading up to a fight for its increase in strength and agression but obviouly you must be careful if you are tested. Another possible pre fight drug (taken literally just before fight) would be cheque drops, huge strenth and agression increase and very popular with the mma boys.