Does test affect mental ability?

[Adaptek]

Is there any evidence that test can slow you down mentally? I don't think as sharp, lose concentration etc.. I know all roids effect people in different ways, but I think its a bad combo for me to study and cycle at same time. I am currently doing a degree and I wish I never started this cycle because I can't sit still and concentrate. Someone recommended Adderall to counteract this problem, but I am not sure where to get in UK. I know its not available in most of Europe.

[T3/T4 GSR]

I am kinda thinking it does lately. The more I juice it seems the more of a meathead I become.

[HardCharger]

I always seem to be more focused and dialed in when on test. Which is good because I normally cant concentrate. When I was in high school I was prescribed ritalin (how ever you spell it) for ADD. So maybe it has an oposite effect type of thing going on..... who knows.

[dece870717]

I think if anything it sort of makes you cocky.

[kobiack]

is it temporary (the sides go away) or permanent (they don't go away)? because i've been considering this for a long time and i don't want to be a "meathead"...

[Maximus_Pecs]

For me personally I seem to have a clearer mind and am more focused.

[cj1capp]

For me personally I seem to have a clearer mind and am more focused.

i totally concur , i love being on high dose test every thing is sharper clearer and i am just more focused.

[Dude-Man]

For me personally I seem to have a clearer mind and am more focused.

Same.

[Lavinco]

Exactly what kind of gear are you on when you feel less focused?

[cj1capp]

Exactly what kind of gear are you on when you feel less focused?

A bombs

[cj1capp]

Is there any evidence that test can slow you down mentally? I don't think as sharp, lose concentration etc.. I know all roids effect people in different ways, but I think its a bad combo for me to study and cycle at same time. I am currently doing a degree and I wish I never started this cycle because I can't sit still and concentrate. Someone recommended Adderall to counteract this problem, but I am not sure where to get in UK. I know its not available in most of Europe.

and i would reconsider the adderal





Adderall

Generic Name: amphetamine-dextroamphetamine (am FEH ta meen/deck stroe am FEH ta meen)

Brand Names: Adderall, Adderall XR,

What is the most important information I should know about Adderall?

Do not use Adderall if you have used an MAO inhibitor such as isocarboxazid (Marplan), tranylcypromine (Parnate), phenelzine (Nardil), rasagiline (Azilect), or selegiline (Eldepryl, Emsam) within the past 14 days. Serious, life-threatening side effects can occur if you take Adderall before the MAO inhibitor has cleared from your body. Do not use this medication if you are allergic to Adderall, or if you have hardened arteries (arteriosclerosis), heart disease, moderate to severe high blood pressure (hypertension), overactive thyroid, glaucoma, severe anxiety or agitation, or a history of drug or alcohol addiction. Some stimulants have caused sudden death in children and adolescents with serious heart problems or congenital heart defects. Before taking Adderall, tell your doctor if you have any type of heart problems. Do not give this medication to a child younger than 3 years old without the advice of a doctor.
Long-term use of Adderall can slow a child's growth. Tell your doctor if the child using this medication is not growing or gaining weight properly.

Adderall is a drug of abuse and may be habit-forming. Keep track of how many pills have been used from each new bottle of this medicine. You should be aware if any person in the household is using this medicine improperly or without a prescription. Using this medication improperly can cause death or serious side effects on the heart.
What is Adderall?

Adderall is a central nervous system stimulant. It affects chemicals in the brain and nerves that contribute to hyperactivity and impulse control.

Adderall is used to treat narcolepsy and attention deficit hyperactivity disorder (ADHD).

Adderall may also be used for purposes other than those listed in this medication guide.

What should I discuss with my doctor before taking Adderall?

Do not use Adderall if you have used an MAO inhibitor such as isocarboxazid (Marplan), tranylcypromine (Parnate), phenelzine (Nardil), rasagiline (Azilect), or selegiline (Eldepryl, Emsam) within the past 14 days. Serious, life-threatening side effects can occur if you take Adderall before the MAO inhibitor has cleared from your body.
Do not use this medication if you are allergic to Adderall or if you have:

heart disease or moderate to severe high blood pressure (hypertension);

arteriosclerosis (hardening of the arteries);

overactive thyroid;

glaucoma;

severe anxiety, tension, or agitation; or

if you have a history of drug or alcohol addiction.

Some stimulants have caused sudden death in children and adolescents with serious heart problems or congenital heart defects.
Before using Adderall, tell your doctor if you are allergic to any drugs, or if you have:

a congenital heart defect;

high blood pressure;

heart failure, heart rhythm disorder, or recent heart attack;

a personal or family history of mental illness, psychotic disorder, bipolar illness, depression, or suicide attempt;

epilepsy or other seizure disorder; or

tics (muscle twitches) or Tourette's syndrome.

If you have any of these conditions, you may not be able to use Adderall, or you may need a dosage adjustment or special tests during treatment.

FDA pregnancy category C. This medication may be harmful to an unborn baby. It could also cause premature birth, low birth weight, or withdrawal symptoms in a newborn if the mother takes Adderall during pregnancy. Tell your doctor if you are pregnant or plan to become pregnant during treatment. Adderall can pass into breast milk and may harm a nursing baby. Do not use this medication without telling your doctor if you are breast-feeding a baby.
Long-term use of Adderall can slow a child's growth. Tell your doctor if the child using this medication is not growing or gaining weight properly.

Do not give this medication to a child younger than 3 years old without the advice of a doctor.
How should I take Adderall?

Take this medication exactly as it was prescribed for you. Do not take the medication in larger amounts, or take it for longer than recommended by your doctor. Follow the directions on your prescription label.

Your doctor may occasionally change your dose to make sure you get the best results from this medication.

Take this medication with a full glass of water.
Do not take Adderall in the evening because it may cause sleep problems (insomnia).

Do not crush, chew, break, or open an extended-release capsule. Swallow the pill whole. It is specially made to release medicine slowly in the body. Breaking or opening the pill would cause too much of the drug to be released at one time.
To be sure this medication is helping your condition, your doctor will need to see you on a regular basis. Do not miss any scheduled visits to your doctor.

This medication can cause you to have unusual results with certain medical tests. Tell any doctor who treats you that you are using Adderall.

Store Adderall at room temperature away from moisture, heat, and light. Adderall is a drug of abuse and may be habit-forming. Keep track of how many pills have been used from each new bottle of this medicine. You should be aware if any person in the household is using this medicine improperly or without a prescription. Using this medication improperly can cause death or serious side effects on the heart.
What happens if I miss a dose?

Take the missed dose as soon as you remember. If it is almost time for your next dose, or if it is already evening, skip the missed dose and take the medicine the next morning. Taking this medicine late in the day can cause sleep problems. Do not take extra medicine to make up the missed dose.

What happens if I overdose?

Seek emergency medical attention if you think you have used too much of this medicine. An overdose of Adderall can be fatal.
Symptoms of a Adderall overdose include restlessness, tremor, muscle twitches, rapid breathing, confusion, hallucinations, panic, aggressiveness, unexplained muscle pain or tenderness, muscle weakness, fever or flu symptoms, and dark colored urine. These symptoms may be followed by depression and tiredness. Other overdose symptoms include nausea, vomiting, diarrhea, stomach pain, uneven heartbeats, feeling light-headed, fainting, seizure (convulsions), or coma.

What should I avoid while taking Adderall?

Adderall can cause side effects that may impair your thinking or reactions. Be careful if you drive or do anything that requires you to be awake and alert.
Do not take Adderall late in the day. A dose taken too late in the day can cause sleep problems (insomnia).

Avoid drinking fruit juices or taking vitamin C at the same time you take Adderall. These can make your body absorb less of the medicine.

What are the possible side effects of Adderall?

Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction: hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat.
Stop using Adderall and call your doctor at once if you have any of these serious side effects:

fast, pounding, or uneven heartbeats;

feeling light-headed, fainting;

increased blood pressure (severe headache, blurred vision, trouble concentrating, chest pain, numbness, seizure); or

tremor, restlessness, hallucinations, unusual behavior, or motor tics (muscle twitches).

Continue taking Adderall and talk to your doctor if you have any of these less serious side effects:

headache or dizziness;

sleep problems (insomnia);

dry mouth or an unpleasant taste in your mouth;

diarrhea, constipation;

loss of appetite, weight loss; or

loss of interest in sex, impotence, or difficulty having an orgasm.

Side effects other than those listed here may also occur. Talk to your doctor about any side effect that seems unusual or that is especially bothersome.

What other drugs will affect Adderall?

Before taking Adderall, tell your doctor if you are using any of the following drugs:

blood pressure medications;

a diuretic (water pill);

cold or allergy medicines (antihistamines);

acetazolamide (Diamox);

chlorpromazine (Thorazine);

ethosuximide (Zarontin);

guanethidine (Ismelin);

haloperidol (Haldol);

lithium (Eskalith, Lithobid);

methenamine (Hiprex, Mandelamine, Urex);

phenytoin (Dilantin), phenobarbital (Luminal, Solfoton);

propoxyphene (Darvon, Darvocet);

reserpine;

sodium bicarbonate (Alka-Seltzer); or

antidepressants such as amitriptyline (Elavil), amoxapine (Ascendin), clomipramine (Anafranil), desipramine (Norpramin), imipramine (Tofranil), or nortriptyline (Pamelor).

If you are using any of these drugs, you may not be able to use Adderall, or you may need dosage adjustments or special tests during treatment.

There may be other drugs not listed that can affect Adderall. Tell your doctor about all the prescription and over-the-counter medications you use. This includes vitamins, minerals, herbal products, and drugs prescribed by other doctors. Do not start using a new medication without telling your doctor.

Where can I get more information?

Your pharmacist has information about Adderall written for health professionals that you may read.
What does my medication look like?

Amphetamine-dextroamphetamine mixture is available with a prescription under the brand names Adderall and Adderall XR. Other formulations may also be available. Ask your pharmacist any questions you have about this medication, especially if it is new to you.

Adderall 5 mg-blue, round tablets

Adderall 10 mg-blue, round tablets

Adderall 20 mg-orange, round tablets

Adderall 30 mg-orange, round tablets

Adderall XR 5 mg-clear/blue capsules

Adderall XR 10 mg-blue/blue capsules

Adderall XR 15 mg-blue/white capsules

Adderall XR 20 mg-orange/orange capsules

Adderall XR 25 mg-orange/white capsules

Adderall XR 30 mg-natural/orange capsules

[duramaxedge]

Im gonna have to 2nd T3/T4 GSR

[Jakspro]

Don't take adderall it won't solve your problem... I thought it would help with concentration too (Every college student knows people who use it for finals) so i got a script from my doc. And it sucked balls, you concentrate for like 4 hours, but afterward your a piece of sh*t for the rest of the day. The sides were too great for me to take that shat. But everyone reacts to that differently, there is NO medical explanation on how it works, NONE, only theories. It is an Amphetamine, a speed, yet it supposedly calms people who have A.D.D.

[Dude-Man]

Modafinil is where it's at if you absolutely must supplement your focus. You don't get rebound sleep/tiredness, and it's not as physically stimulating as adderall or ritalin.

[lpicken]

For me Adderall=A's. I'm a business major and take adderall just about everyday. There are huge sides which I learned to deal with, but they are worth it in exchange for an A. You could say I don't want it as bad, but do you have any idea how incredibly boring accounting is? With Adderall, accounting is a day at Disneyworld. Really. As far as being on juice and going to class, everyday life and what not, that shit just makes me want to go out and conquer the mother****ing world. Remember, civilization as we know it, whether right or wrong, was founded by those with the most testosterone. I could right an essay about this theory, but I won't. In short, the caveman with the most balls, fuc*ed and killed the most and therefore was the most biologically successful. BAM!!! Just nowadays you have to go out and conquer the world with your brain like Bill Gates.

[Jacky_Zebsten]

makes me a cocky mutha ****a. i'll go out n usually be all relaxed but when i'm on gear i'm the king of the world

THE KING OF THE WORLD

[Jacky_Zebsten]

do u reckon adderal stunts your growth? the rest of my family are 6ft +++ i'm 5'11; awesome work doctor... so glad i took that drug through highschool

[Dobie-BOY]

um, so wats rong with beng a meet hed? I think meet heds ar funny.

[notanormalgent]

I wouldn't use Adderall more than twice a week to keep things in moderation. When I'm running test I'll feel good until my natural production shuts down, then I've got to throw in some HCG and I'll feel alright. I think part of the reason it's so hard to study on test is because all you want to do is work out and have sex!

[Adaptek]

Modafinil is where it's at if you absolutely must supplement your focus. You don't get rebound sleep/tiredness, and it's not as physically stimulating as adderall or ritalin.

I am going to take your advice man.... is Modafinil script?

[one8nine]

i feel stupid all of the time i dont think it is the test though

[knownutz]

I do have more trouble concentrating and focusing on test, Seems to get better the longer I'm on it. In general my mood is better.

[87GrandNational]

before, My fiance and friends noticed that i forgot what people said to me literally a minute after they told me. I got lost while driving alot, and well honestly i felt stupid. After a few years i noticed it just makes me "calmer" now. i rarely get aggrivated except for really bad road rage in DC traffic. All in all, Test is fine but i hate the acne.

[RA]

i feel stupid all of the time i dont think it is the test though

Yeah, Im thinking its not

[Tesla]

For me Adderall=A's. I'm a business major and take adderall just about everyday. There are huge sides which I learned to deal with, but they are worth it in exchange for an A. You could say I don't want it as bad, but do you have any idea how incredibly boring accounting is? With Adderall, accounting is a day at Disneyworld. Really. As far as being on juice and going to class, everyday life and what not, that shit just makes me want to go out and conquer the mother****ing world. Remember, civilization as we know it, whether right or wrong, was founded by those with the most testosterone. I could right an essay about this theory, but I won't. In short, the caveman with the most balls, fuc*ed and killed the most and therefore was the most biologically successful. BAM!!! Just nowadays you have to go out and conquer the world with your brain like Bill Gates.

What dosage of adderall are you taking? How long before studying do you take it?

[Tesla]

I am going to take your advice man.... is Modafinil script?

Yes, Modafinil does require a script.

I call Modafinil my little "miracle drug." It makes me totally awake and alert without feeling like I'm on a drug. I don't get that wired feeling that other pick-me-up drugs give.

[Maximus_Pecs]

For me Adderall=A's. I'm a business major and take adderall just about everyday. There are huge sides which I learned to deal with, but they are worth it in exchange for an A. You could say I don't want it as bad, but do you have any idea how incredibly boring accounting is? With Adderall, accounting is a day at Disneyworld. Really. As far as being on juice and going to class, everyday life and what not, that shit just makes me want to go out and conquer the mother****ing world. Remember, civilization as we know it, whether right or wrong, was founded by those with the most testosterone. I could right an essay about this theory, but I won't. In short, the caveman with the most balls, fuc*ed and killed the most and therefore was the most biologically successful. BAM!!! Just nowadays you have to go out and conquer the world with your brain like Bill Gates.

I work as consultant and deal with business and technical decisions all day long. In short I use my brain and not brawn... While on a cycle I feel great, I'm super alert, sharp and everything is done to perfection. If I don't get enough sleep I still feel great. I have made the greatest strides in my career while on a cycles.

[sp9]

Test gives me a strong sense of well-being. Only when I come off does it mess with my mind. I get emotional/depressed for a good week when I go off and I hit the bottom of the test level while natural test is coming back online.

[lawsey000]

My marks go up during a cycle. My theory is that it's attributed to me quitting drinking. AAS make me big and smart. Booze makes me soft, dumb, ill and limp noodled....yet I always seem to go back to it. It's like a shitty ex-girlfriend that you know you hate, yet you still hook-up with her for fun time and time again.

[lpicken]

I take very little, about 10mg to study very intensely for about 4 hours. You do crash you just have to plan around it. Adderall does take some getting used to.

[Terinox]

I think everyone is different, I have known a couple people who juiced in late highschool and were quite the "meathead" and others who graduated universities with honourary degrees...so everyone is different. Overall, they all just say it makes them feel good, dunno about the smart part

I myself, as others have said, feel just "better" and not necessarily smarter, I don't think it has affected my education.

[Adaptek]

Yes, Modafinil does require a script.

I call Modafinil my little "miracle drug." It makes me totally awake and alert without feeling like I'm on a drug. I don't get that wired feeling that other pick-me-up drugs give.

I didn't visit the forum for a while because of studying, so don't have any current sources for UK but I still got a stash of ephedrine HCL and i used some ginko and something called mentat.

It worked a little but need the good stuff.

[frank12391]

Remember, civilization as we know it, whether right or wrong, was founded by those with the most testosterone. I could right an essay about this theory, but I won't. In short, the caveman with the most balls, fuc*ed and killed the most and therefore was the most biologically successful. BAM!!! Just nowadays you have to go out and conquer the world with your brain like Bill Gates.

LoL
Please don't hold back, I'd like to read it!