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    PROP/TREN A lets try this again

    posted before have some more questions sorry just wanna get it right

    1st cycle test e 500mg ew 1-12 and dbol 40mg ed 1-4

    stats 189 10% bf and 22yrs old

    2nd cycle will be sort of a stay cut lean mass cycle although i plan on being 8 or 9 %bf to begin with and will be bumping cals up to 3000

    weeks 1-11 prop 75mg ed 525 ew
    weeks 2-9tren a about 66mg ed 468 ew

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    days 1-2- 300mg ed days 3-30 clomid 100mg ed
    nov 1-15 40mg ed days 16-30 20mg ed
    want to run hcg

    (Questions)
    1. Should i up the dosages on the prop or tren ... maybe to 700prop ew and the tren 625mg ew
    2.Will tren work on a low calorie and carb diet?
    3. How should i run hcg.

    Thank you for your time

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    I think prop should be 100mg ED and Tren A atleast 75mg ED.....but for your second cycle people are gonna tell you that you shouldnt run Tren A yet...

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    And the HCG start it like 3 days after your last Prop shot and run it for 3 weeks at 250-500iu ED

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    im currently on
    wk1-12test prop- 100mg ed
    wk1-10tren A- 75mg ed
    wk 6-12 anavar - 75mg ed

    trust me...its a great cycle. you will definetly want to quit at week 4 though with your lack of experience with steroids . this is my 5th cycle and week 5 was INTENSE. yes tren will work on a cutting diet. unfortunetly i dont know anything about hcg . but good luck.

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    Honestly tho, the Tren A....it all has to do with how your body deals with it...yes its a harsh drug but everyones body takes it in differently....my boy ran it with his second cycle for 8 weeks and his sides were pretty much normal, no worse than anyone elses

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    ya i mean. it wasnt intense where i was dying...it was just like "wow im superman this morning"...besides that one week....its been like any other cycle. but i think he should do a deca 400mg/wk, test e 500mg/wk, dbol for the first 4 weeks at 40mg...hell like it.

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    you think i should do deca dbol and test e"????? thats doesnt sound to great for cutting

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    You can use the Tren A and if it starts to be too much it can always be dropped. Tren A is good for bulking or cutting....depends on your diet

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    will it work as well with only 3000 cals i mean im 6 foot and will prolly be 180-185 when i start

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    oh my bad, forgot you were cutting...then tren a, test prop, and maybe some winstrol or anavar if your feeling saucy, youd be swole.

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    yeah, that should be good 3000-3500 cals.....make sure you get enough protein wit all that food tho also

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    Yeah winstrol would be good......my next cycle im starting in a couple weeks is Tren A, Test Prop, Test E, and Winny......if you do decide to take the winny also, it should be ran for atleast 6 weeks

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    if i come across a little extra cash i was thinking of tossing in masteron for the last 7-8 weeks but have a lot of expenses coming up spring break is in 13 days for me just dropped 1500 on that

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    oh i guess this will actually be my 3rd cycle if u count the superdrol i tried first

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    im doing a prop and npp cycle together with some winny.. i think thats a killer cutter and cant wait to start in about 3weeks time! this will also be my second cycle, and ive been advised to stay away from tren till the 3rd cycle at least. u should try some npp mate.

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    ill prolly get flammed for this i tried a search what exactly is npp

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    Deca with a short ester

    nandrolone phenylpropionate..did i spell that right?

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    i don't know

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    hmm idk about that the idea of this cycle is to look keep all the water out and look as shredded as possible i was thinking of actually adding masteron or primo

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    alright im reading other places now that 400mg of tren ew may be too much for first time use.. am i going over board with 525mg ew

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    1 - 12 week Test prop (100mg EOD)

    1 - 10 week Tren a (75mg EOD)

    1 - 6 week Anavar (40mg ED)

    8- 14 week Stanozolo (50mg ED)

    0 - 14 week Letrozolo (0.25mg ED)

    PCT

    Clomid

    Dont Forget to put T3 T4 Clenbutro Ehprine into this stack!




    Rip & Cut hardness lean Cycle!
    Last edited by elitetky; 03-04-2007 at 05:09 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by elitetky
    1 - 12 week Test prop (100mg EOD)

    1 - 10 week Tren a (75mg EOD)

    1 - 6 week Anavar (40mg ED)

    8- 14 week Stanozolo (50mg ED)

    0 - 14 week Letrozolo (0.25mg ED)
    Looks like a killer cycle not sure if i can get my hands on the winny though. actually i think my supplier just might of gotten var... but is that enough prop and tren??? to everyone im trying to decide what dosages to use for these two compound in my second cycle... Remember my last cycle i was using
    500mg ew test E. So its either

    525mg test prop each week
    462mg tren a each week
    OR
    700mg test prop each week
    525mg tren a each week

    which should i choose??????

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    anyone????

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    Unhappy

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    pllleaasee how much tren and test to use for my 3rd cycle (2nd real) is
    700mg ew test prop and 525mg tren a ew too much for my first time with these compounds

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