oral debate

[lil-SLIM]

which is would u say is better

dbol VS abombs

winnie VS Var


I assume bombs and var but are they soo much better that there worth the money or are these drugs similar enough that u can substitute for the cheeper ones?

[lil-SLIM]

bump

[lil-SLIM]

wow so I'm goig to assume that var and abombs are so much better that this was a stupid question

is that right to assume? anyone? any opinion?

[Tbone1975]

which is would u say is better

dbol VS abombs

winnie VS Var


I assume bombs and var but are they soo much better that there worth the money or are these drugs similar enough that u can substitute for the cheeper ones?

I did drol the first time this cycle and would recommend drol over dbol. Drol just might be the most powerful steroid I've ever gotten my hands on. Sorry I can't comment on the winnie and var, haven't done em.

[duramaxedge]

I dont care what anyone says man.. depends on goals.. what are you trying to acheive.. some of the stuff would be comparing apples to oranges..

[lil-SLIM]

I see well hmm my goals are...

I want to be lean and hard body'd

I want gains that last

I'm lookin for fifteen more lbs of pure muscle and to loose about three percent bodyfat

my cycle ideas were these...

expensive one
1000mg test e week 1
500mg test e weeks 2-8 or 10
50mg abombs weeks 1-2 or 3
60mg var weeks 3-10 or 12
arimidex .5 whole way through
hcg and nolva pct

cheaper cycle
1000mg test e week 1
500 test e weeks 2-8 or 10
50mg dbol weeks 1-4
winnie weeks 5-10
plus arimedex and the same pct as before

I also pla on two weeks of clen pre and post cycle

which of these or combo of these souns best for my goals

also open to other suggestion ive thought about a test var and tbol cycle as well

[duramaxedge]

whats your experience bro?? 1st timer??

[duramaxedge]

I guess man regardless.. id do the 2nd cycle.. maybe lower the dose of dbol to around 30/40mg ed.. (depends on each individual, but 50mg is a little high) Id drop the winny and run tbol instead at the end.. read the forums for pct bro (run your test e 10 wks atleast.. preferably 12 bro.. throw your tbol in there and run it like 8-12 maybe 14 or 10-14 man.. start pct on wk 14 or 12.. depends on your last test shot.. tbol is dependant on same

[lil-SLIM]

this will be my second cycle the first was

test e weeks 1-14 due to an injury I extended it two weeks from original 12 weeks
50mg dbol weeks 1-4
60mg var weeks 8-14
I used nolva and clomid pct

I hated the clomid though depressed the hell outa me that's why I was hopin to leeve it out this next time

[Hellmaskbanned]

Your jokeing with these dosages right?

[lil-SLIM]

would/should I throw in or replace somthn with masteron

any opinions on these cycles are much appreciated

[Son Of Khadafi]

You wont know which one is better for you until you put it into your system.
I love drol, 1-2lbs a day for the first 2 weeks or so and i dont really get any of the sides from it except for those f+cking nightmares, but who cares about that.

Dbol suppresses my appetite so that defeats the purpose of taking it for me

havent tried winny or var, but from what i have heard and read that is comparing two completely different things, so it depends on what you are looking for

[spywizard]

friend, if you are shooting 1gram of test and you did the same in the 1st cycle.. you don't really need our advice..

use the var with it, and lower the test and pick up the fork..

good luck..

[lil-SLIM]

oh is that not what I meant

250 x2 a week

[aadrenaline]

friend, if you are shooting 1gram of test and you did the same in the 1st cycle.. you don't really need our advice..

use the var with it, and lower the test and pick up the fork..

good luck..

he frontloaded his 1st week whats wrong with that? i frontloaded my 1st 2weeks of my 1st cycle..1000mg week 1 and 750mg week 2 then 500mg the rest of the way out. get my blood values up theres faster.