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[davidinvienna]

I really need your help on this guys especially regarding HCG since I keep finding so much contradicting info on this - but 1st the facts, am in week 2 of:

- Test E ... 1st week 1000mgs, week 2-10 500mgs/wk
- Halo ... weeks 1-5, 20mgs/day on non work out days, 30mgs on work out days
- Adex (L-dex) at .5mg/day throughout

for PCT I have following compounds in place:

- Tamoxifen at 15mg/tab
- 3 x 5000iu HCG
- Adex

firstly i was thkin of running the Adex all the way through cycle and PCT adding Nolva 2weeks after last shot Test E at 30mgs/day for the 1st 2weeks and then down to 15mgs/day for week 3 and 4 of PCT.

the real tricky issue is the HCG - some advice says to start running it 2weeks before last shot and not for PCT, then I found info suggesting to run it 2weeks before last shot & PCT and on top of that I ve read info saying to run it all the way throughout at low dose to keep the boys in shape and again another info says to run it at the beginning of PCT for 2 weeks only!

ok - here I am a newbie completely confused!

Please guys help me on setting up my PCT with the compounds listed, especially givin me detailed info on how you reckon I should use the HCG and at what dose - I really need ur help on this one.

Thank you

[Dude-Man]

The whole thing with HCG is exactly what you describe: there are many schools of thought regarding its use. I personally advocate a longer, 6 week pct, where Hcg is used for the last two weeks of the cycle, and the first two weeks of PCT, similar to what's outlined in the anthony roberts pct sticky.

[J*U*icEd]

im guessing uve already seen my thoughts on the use of HCG.....

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=289087

[davidinvienna]

@juiced - yup read that one ... using the protocoll you describe, at what dose and intervals would you be running the HCG?

@dude - similar Q to you matey ... at what dose and intervals would you run HCG if using it for the last 2weeks on cycle and the 1st 2weeks of PCT? also does that mean you would move from cycle to PCT with no time in between i.e. PCT usually start 2weeks after last shot of Test but in this case would you advise to use HCG last 2weeks on cycle moving directly into the 1st 2weeks of PCT with no break in between?

what about the theory i ve read so much about that running HCG throughout at a low dose or at least for 2weeks mid cycle will keep he boys in shape and also aid quicker recovery once you movin into PCT?

really appreaciate ur help on this

[J*U*icEd]

@juiced - yup read that one ... using the protocoll you describe, at what dose and intervals would you be running the HCG?

@dude - similar Q to you matey ... at what dose and intervals would you run HCG if using it for the last 2weeks on cycle and the 1st 2weeks of PCT? also does that mean you would move from cycle to PCT with no time in between i.e. PCT usually start 2weeks after last shot of Test but in this case would you advise to use HCG last 2weeks on cycle moving directly into the 1st 2weeks of PCT with no break in between?

what about the theory i ve read so much about that running HCG throughout at a low dose or at least for 2weeks mid cycle will keep he boys in shape and also aid quicker recovery once you movin into PCT?

really appreaciate ur help on this

i would do 1000ius a week for weeks 6-10.5... split it up into 2 weekly injections... 500 on monday and 500 on thursday... do your last injection the monday after your last test injection(if you start you cycle on a monday and do the monday/thursday injections)... then 10 days after your last HCG injections(2 weeks after you last test E injection) start your PCT... it will all work out the way i describe... good luck

[J*U*icEd]

got that david??

[davidinvienna]

got that david??

yea i got that mate ... all written down and ready to go - thx for the detailed advice - i ll let you know how i go

cheers

[davidinvienna]

just out of curiousity - by what week of usin Test do you guys usually notice ur boys shrinkin ... i m only in week 2 but i have the feeling that they ve lost in size already? maybe i m just paranoid ... but would it be "normal" to notice shrinkage already in week 2?

[davidinvienna]

any input on that one?