Fresh Meat-Trash my cycle

[kona dawg]

Here it is-32 years old, 4 years lifting, 5-11, 190lbs, bf? Would like to gain about 15 lbs of lean muscle, nothing crazy, just testing the waters.
10 week cycle 250 mg test enanthate and 300 mg equipoise. I know at least 12 weeks would be better but he said that is all he can get. If I can get another 2 weeks I will. I will be taking 10 mg of nolvadex ed for 12 weeks and 2 weeks after my last injection I will double my nolva to 20 mg for a little over a month with the addition of clomid at 300 mg first day, 100 mg for the rest of the month. What u think? change anything? What should I expect?

[kona dawg]

Oh yeah, good diet. 1.5 gallon of water day, and 1.5 to 1.75 grams of protein per bw. Will try to get it up to 2 gram. 120 grams are from protein shakes, does that matter?

[Njord]

Here it is-32 years old, 4 years lifting, 5-11, 190lbs, bf? Would like to gain about 15 lbs of lean muscle, nothing crazy, just testing the waters.
10 week cycle 250 mg test enanthate and 300 mg equipoise. I know at least 12 weeks would be better but he said that is all he can get. If I can get another 2 weeks I will. I will be taking 10 mg of nolvadex ed for 12 weeks and 2 weeks after my last injection I will double my nolva to 20 mg for a little over a month with the addition of clomid at 300 mg first day, 100 mg for the rest of the month. What u think? change anything? What should I expect?

You should run the Test E at 500mg per week. 250 is pretty low. Do you mean that you can only get 10 weeks worth of 250mg test E? If that is the case I would put the cycle on hold until you get enough gear to do a proper cycle.

[kona dawg]

Do u mean put it on hold because its 250mg or because I can only get 10 weeks(for both) He might be able to get the other 2 weeks before I finish. I know everybody runs 500, like I said just testing the waters. U think it would still be a waste of time?

[kona dawg]

IF I can get 12 weeks would they be good, or is it really important to go with 500mg. I just thought since stacking it w equipoise it would be fine just to do 250mg. If I get the 500 for 12 weeks would u try and get enough equipoise for 12 weeks also or would 10 be fine for it? Thanks

[Njord]

Do u mean put it on hold because its 250mg or because I can only get 10 weeks(for both) He might be able to get the other 2 weeks before I finish. I know everybody runs 500, like I said just testing the waters. U think it would still be a waste of time?

What I mean is you should run Test E @ 500mg pr week(250mg twice a week). 12 weeks would be better, since the slow esters of the enthenate will take a while to kick in.

I just came off a Test E cycle at week 9. The plan was for a 12 week cycle, but due to circumstances beyond my control I had to stop early. Didn't really feel the Test E kick in until about week 5 and I was feeling great and making good gain until I had to stop. Would have loved to continue the full 12 weeks.

Don't know much about the EQ, so I can't help you there. If this is your first cycle, I would recommend just running the Test.

[pavlenko]

if its your 1st cycle 250mg per week you will make great gains trust me, thats what i did my 1st cycle i did 250mg per week for 10 weeks of test-e only cycle and gained a good 25 pounds which i kept. some vets will tell you start real slow and try to make gains on as little juice as possible because in the future it will really pay off.

[testisbest]

you don't need 500mg of test a week. Like Pavlenko said, you'll get the effects of the eq without any of the sides from test. I like running low doses of test and have gained of 200mg a week for a couple of cycles. But if you can get more eq, I would frontload the first week or two.

[kona dawg]

Appreciate it-do my clomid and nolva doses sound good?

[pavlenko]

yeah the pct looks good, but i have heard its not necessary to run both nolva and clomid as they do the same exact thing only nolva is more effective at it so u can actually save your clomid for later cycles to save some money.

[jaydub]

first cycle should really be a single compound cycle... see how your body reacts before jumping right in to stacking. thats where the 500/wk test e comes in. instead of the 205 test e and 300 eq. just try straight test

[kona dawg]

I am going to try and go with the test only cycle, but I read on here that the clomid and nolva are not the same and they work together?

[jdm95lude]

I am going to try and go with the test only cycle, but I read on here that the clomid and nolva are not the same and they work together?

Clomid and Nolvadex are not the same. They do some what the same thing but in different ways. Go on the PCT page and read about them both you will understand then. I run them both along with Armidex during PCT.

[kona dawg]

I did read about them and thats how I knew they weren't the same. How much of the l-dex would u run and for how long with my nolva and clomid?

[jdm95lude]

depends are you wanting to run the l-dex during or after... the average is .25-.5 ED for 3-4 wks PCT/ during cycle .5mg ED

[kona dawg]

Probably after-thought about running just the nolva while on and then the nolva and clomid for pct-my guy says he doesn't have the l-dex-think it would be ok without it?

[Johny-too-small]

Bro, save the nolva for pct. You dont need it while on cycle unless you have signs of or existing gyno. Like said above, run just the test (300 mg/ew of EQ isnt going to do anything at all and you need to run that stuff for at least 12 weeks @ 600 mg/ew).

Get yourself an AI form ar-r.com and run that during pct (letro, l-dex, etc.). Also, everyone has different reactions to aas. Dont be shocked if you dont see too much from 250 mg/ew of test. You might blow up or you might see little change.

Good luck.

[kona dawg]

I think I can get some letro-how much of it should I run and should i run the clomid and nolva with it?

[trulbfan3]

i would run the test at 500 b/c teh 300 mg a week of eq istn going to do much at all if any

[Johny-too-small]

I think I can get some letro-how much of it should I run and should i run the clomid and nolva with it?

0.25 mg/ed for 2-3 weeks (one pump if you get it from ar-r). Yes, run the nolva and clomid w/ it.

[kona dawg]

I saw the liquid forms of clomid and nolva and l-dex on that site but it didn't say how much was in each bottle. If I decided to get all of my pct(clomid, nolva and l-dex) how many "pumps" of each do I need and how many bottles of each to get me through pct-also I see this site advertised by alot of people on here, kind of suspicious

[Njord]

I saw the liquid forms of clomid and nolva and l-dex on that site but it didn't say how much was in each bottle. If I decided to get all of my pct(clomid, nolva and l-dex) how many "pumps" of each do I need and how many bottles of each to get me through pct-also I see this site advertised by alot of people on here, kind of suspicious

The stuff from Ar-r is good stuff. I was a little worried at first buying from them, but all the stufff I have got from them has been first class.

Here is a breakdown of products and dosage:

Tamoxifen Citrate (Nolvadex):

20mg/ml. 50 ml is bottle, enough for 50 daily doses of 20mg. Does not have a pump, uses an oral syringe for dosing.

Clomid

35mg/ml. 70ml bottle. Here you have to do your math to figure out how long it will last you. Too many different dosages for me to give you a number. Again uses oral syringe for dosing.

L-dex (Anastrozole)

1mg/ml. 30ml bottle, enough for 120 daily doses at 0.25mg. 1 pump is 0.1ml. So use 2.5 (or 3 to make it easy)pumps for your daily dose.

[kona dawg]

Thanks-very informative

[No One Knows]

Here it is-32 years old, 4 years lifting, 5-11, 190lbs, bf? Would like to gain about 15 lbs of lean muscle, nothing crazy, just testing the waters.
10 week cycle 250 mg test enanthate and 300 mg equipoise. I know at least 12 weeks would be better but he said that is all he can get. If I can get another 2 weeks I will. I will be taking 10 mg of nolvadex ed for 12 weeks and 2 weeks after my last injection I will double my nolva to 20 mg for a little over a month with the addition of clomid at 300 mg first day, 100 mg for the rest of the month. What u think? change anything? What should I expect?

I definitely wouldn't take 300mg or even 100mg of clomid...

I'd suggest looking at Anthony Roberts PCT regimen

[Johny-too-small]

Wow, dude, you just bumped a 6 month old thread!

[sincere81oo0]

Here it is-32 years old, 4 years lifting, 5-11, 190lbs, bf? Would like to gain about 15 lbs of lean muscle, nothing crazy, just testing the waters.
10 week cycle 250 mg test enanthate and 300 mg equipoise. I know at least 12 weeks would be better but he said that is all he can get. If I can get another 2 weeks I will. I will be taking 10 mg of nolvadex ed for 12 weeks and 2 weeks after my last injection I will double my nolva to 20 mg for a little over a month with the addition of clomid at 300 mg first day, 100 mg for the rest of the month. What u think? change anything? What should I expect?

wait and get all your gear first bro. 10 weeks of eq is pointless

[taiboxa]

I definitely wouldn't take 300mg or even 100mg of clomid...

I'd suggest looking at Anthony Roberts PCT regimen

you been here how long? and you had to go and resurct something like this?


why?

[sincere81oo0]

you been here how long? and you had to go and resurct something like this?


why?

lmao i didnt even realize how old the thread was hahaha