First cycle

[VirusAnD]

so ya i took my first shot yesterday .. Im taking sus 250 and im taking about 14 shots worth, how much weight can i possibly put on within this cycle? been curious about it

[kaberle_15]

No one can tell you for sure results vary with everyone, diet and training will determine how well you do.

[Schmidty]

its up to how ur body reacts,ur diet,training ETC

[testisbest]

not very much juice you got there. I'd be trying to get a real cycle's worth right away.

[VirusAnD]

is a goal of 15 pounds to much off 14 shots even if my body reacts good to it? thats wut im tryin to shoot for

[rukus43]

Who knows....you may even gain 15 pounds but what about the bigger question...actually keeping your gains. What is your pct like...that is what I would be more concerned about.

[MartyMcFly]

Who knows....you may even gain 15 pounds but what about the bigger question...actually keeping your gains. What is your pct like...that is what I would be more concerned about.

Good point

[testisbest]

how often are you taking the shots?

[VirusAnD]

how often are you taking the shots?

im on the same schedule as my friend, 1 shot every week till about week 3 than we are taking it double.. idk if that right, would be good from some different point of views

[ILuvTestEn]

You sound like someone who doesn't really know what your doing. Your cycle consists of 14 shots? That doesn't sound like someone who has enough knowledge of AAS to be taking them.You didn't post your lifting experience,weight,age. These are some of the things we need to be able to give you some advise. What are your plans for PCT?

[VirusAnD]

You sound like someone who doesn't really know what your doing. Your cycle consists of 14 shots? That doesn't sound like someone who has enough knowledge of AAS to be taking them.You didn't post your lifting experience,weight,age. These are some of the things we need to be able to give you some advise. What are your plans for PCT?

Im not gonan lie, i dont kno much about it, i just know i wanna get bigger and my friends take it so i decided id like to do it myself. Im 19, i weight about 170.. and ya im takin 14 shots, i got my own bottle and me and my other friend r splitting another one

[MartyMcFly]

im on the same schedule as my friend, 1 shot every week till about week 3 than we are taking it double.. idk if that right, would be good from some different point of views

I would not pyramid. I also would not take sus. Only test E or P but to late for that.

[VirusAnD]

I would not pyramid. I also would not take sus. Only test E or P but to late for that.

lol im so new to this i hate it but this is y im here and askin questions.. but y not take sus? and pyramind? sorry to be annoying but i appreciate the info u guys give me

[ILuvTestEn]

I'm not trying to flame you but at 19 you should NOT be taking anything. Your body is putting out enough test on its own and with proper eating you would make great gains.IMO you should stop before you screw up your body and I would suggest you tell your friends the same if there as old as you.

[VirusAnD]

I'm not trying to flame you but at 19 you should NOT be taking anything. Your body is putting out enough test on its own and with proper eating you would make great gains.IMO you should stop before you screw up your body and I would suggest you tell your friends the same if there as old as you.

what u mean screw up my body? is 1 cycle really that bad? im only doing one and my friends did it last year and they were fine and they were also 19 when they took it.

[testisbest]

you should be shooting 250 2x a week at least or divide it up to 3 shoots a week. Like myself and others have said, not an ideal cycle if you wanna call it that. The short esters are gonna give you some rollercoasters. Might get a few more sides than with a single ester. Just my opinion. But I don't really care for mixed esters. Doesn't mean it won't work for you. Best of luck. Like others have said, what's up with your pct and diet?

[kaberle_15]

Im not gonan lie, i dont kno much about it, i just know i wanna get bigger and my friends take it so i decided id like to do it myself. Im 19, i weight about 170.. and ya im takin 14 shots, i got my own bottle and me and my other friend r splitting another one

So you should know that your gains whatever they will be are going to be determined by your diet for a large part and how you train. How long have you been training? How is your diet? If both those are off you will NOT get the gains you are expecting. If you and your buddy are thinking just because you are juicing you will blow up like magic you are wrong....

[MartyMcFly]

lol im so new to this i hate it but this is y im here and askin questions.. but y not take sus? and pyramind? sorry to be annoying but i appreciate the info u guys give me

Sus has prop and phenylprop in it which are short esters. To take advantage of them they need to be shot EOD. If not blood levels will be more unstable just like with pyramiding. If you want to shoot ED or EOD I would go with Test P and if you want less injections Test E. They are also cheaper than Sus. This is just my opinion.

[MartyMcFly]

you should be shooting 250 2x a week at least or divide it up to 3 shoots a week. Like myself and others have said, not an ideal cycle if you wanna call it that. The short esters are gonna give you some rollercoasters. Might get a few more sides than with a single ester. Just my opinion. But I don't really care for mixed esters. Doesn't mean it won't work for you. Best of luck. Like others have said, what's up with your pct and diet?

I should have read this before I replied. Could have just wrote +1.

[testisbest]

Respectfully speaking, quit your cycle and roll into PCT in couple weeks if you know what PCT is. I think you're wasting your time.

[VirusAnD]

you should be shooting 250 2x a week at least or divide it up to 3 shoots a week. Like myself and others have said, not an ideal cycle if you wanna call it that. The short esters are gonna give you some rollercoasters. Might get a few more sides than with a single ester. Just my opinion. But I don't really care for mixed esters. Doesn't mean it won't work for you. Best of luck. Like others have said, what's up with your pct and diet?

ill answer that when someone lets me know what PCT is lol , this is y im on here is to find out what im taking and hopefully doing it right and i just took my first shot yesterday so im just eating as much as possible. I heard from some ppl that eating alot is good but im not sure.. reply back

[VirusAnD]

So you should know that your gains whatever they will be are going to be determined by your diet for a large part and how you train. How long have you been training? How is your diet? If both those are off you will NOT get the gains you are expecting. If you and your buddy are thinking just because you are juicing you will blow up like magic you are wrong....

i got back into trainning 2 months ago. Ive been on and off for about 2 years. And as of late i just eat anything in site, i was doing 30 grams of protein every 2 hours but i stopped that. any suggestions on a diet?

[kaberle_15]

ill answer that when someone lets me know what PCT is lol , this is y im on here is to find out what im taking and hopefully doing it right and i just took my first shot yesterday so im just eating as much as possible. I heard from some ppl that eating alot is good but im not sure.. reply back

You just proved that you dont know what you are doing. Stop the cycle and spend time researching.

Yes its good to come ask questions but do that before you start the cycle, these drugs can be dangerous if not used correctly.

[testisbest]

well would you like for us to come over and wipe your ass, too. Seriously, just do a damn search. There's a PCT forum devoted to just that. Stop being so lazy. Then check the diet forum. Why are you injecting steroids in your body that you know absolutely nothing about?

[VirusAnD]

You just proved that you dont know what you are doing. Stop the cycle and spend time researching.

Yes its good to come ask questions but do that before you start the cycle, these drugs can be dangerous if not used correctly.

i aint stopin now bro lol, i haev a friend to guide me, he knows what hes doing but i dont kno everything so id figure id ask here.

[MartyMcFly]

ill answer that when someone lets me know what PCT is lol , this is y im on here is to find out what im taking and hopefully doing it right and i just took my first shot yesterday so im just eating as much as possible. I heard from some ppl that eating alot is good but im not sure.. reply back

I would recommend stopping the cycle also. You won't even need PCT after just 1 shot. You do not know what you are doing obviously and headed down a bad road. You are setting yourself up for problems for a long time to come. Read and ask questions first then do a cycle, not the other way around. These are not supplements that have no consequences they are serious hormones. You had better hope that you do not get gyno if you even know what that is. It is about a $5000 side effect to your ill-planned cycle. You may get lucky and just lose everything and not do permanent damage.

[MartyMcFly]

i aint stopin now bro lol, i haev a friend to guide me, he knows what hes doing but i dont kno everything so id figure id ask here.

It ain't funny. You have no diet, PCT, AI's(guess) and soon no gains, libido, etc.

[VirusAnD]

I would recommend stopping the cycle also. You won't even need PCT after just 1 shot. You do not know what you are doing obviously and headed down a bad road. You are setting yourself up for problems for a long time to come. Read and ask questions first then do a cycle, not the other way around. These are not supplements that have no consequences they are serious hormones. You had better hope that you do not get gyno if you even know what that is. It is about a $5000 side effect to your ill-planned cycle. You may get lucky and just lose everything and not do permanent damage.

well im not gonna stop it. I dont understand how bad it is when i know alot of people do it. Im doin 1 cycle, how bad can that really be

[pavlenko]

i know people that do cycle without knowing what they are doing just shooting the test away how some1 told them to and thats all they know. alot of kids do that now adays just go by peoples words and do no research on their own, its pretty sad but lots of people dont have enough will to go and do the research needed to understand the principles of AS and cycling. My opinion is stop the cycle and sell your juice to your friend or buy his and do at least 3 injections per week devided equally.

[VirusAnD]

i mean i understand that i dont kno much of what im doing, but im drinking as much fluids as i can to flush out my system, i got this other thing at GNC that is suppost to clean out my system as well , i workout five days a week. Eat as much as possible and have my injections planned out, i mean i just dont kno how much harder it can be than that and how much more it is to it, dont hate on me cause i dont kno much, im tryin to do research but its to late for me to backout off this cycle, im gonan go through with it

[testisbest]

i aint stopin now bro lol, i haev a friend to guide me, he knows what hes doing but i dont kno everything so id figure id ask here.

on your "friend", why has'nt he explained anything about PCT and diet? We are trying to help. Why start a thread if you don't care what anybody thinks?

[VirusAnD]

on your "friend", why has'nt he explained anything about PCT and diet? We are trying to help. Why start a thread if you don't care what anybody thinks?

i do care what you guys think, but alot of u guys r just tellin me to quit the cycle and im not gonan do that, im gonan go through with it and all the help i can get would be very helpful, i asked some ppl wuts a good diet but no1 has responded to that yet

edit' i just took my first shot yesterday

[kaberle_15]

i mean i understand that i dont kno much of what im doing, but im drinking as much fluids as i can to flush out my system, i got this other thing at GNC that is suppost to clean out my system as well , i workout five days a week. Eat as much as possible and have my injections planned out, i mean i just dont kno how much harder it can be than that and how much more it is to it, dont hate on me cause i dont kno much, im tryin to do research but its to late for me to backout off this cycle, im gonan go through with it

You need to stick to only using products at GNC and you are one shot in its not too late to stop! You wont keep any gains and will probably end up hurting yourself so I dont understand why you cant just hold off for even a couple months to do the minimum amount of research and get PCT and stop being a moron.

[testisbest]

You don't have to ask about a diet. Go to the diet forum and read the stickies. Are you a tard? You don't even have a cycle, you have about 4 weeks worth of sus if used correctly. Sorry for coming off rude, but you could have answered every one of your questions just by doing a search.

[rukus43]

Have You Heard Of Gyno?????????

[VirusAnD]

You need to stick to only using products at GNC and you are one shot in its not too late to stop! You wont keep any gains and will probably end up hurting yourself so I dont understand why you cant just hold off for even a couple months to do the minimum amount of research and get PCT and stop being a moron.

last question for you bro, i do appreciate the info tho, how can i hurt myself? im only taking 1 cycle

[VirusAnD]

Have You Heard Of Gyno?????????

no sorry i havent

[Pro_built7]

well would you like for us to come over and wipe your ass, too. Seriously, just do a damn search. There's a PCT forum devoted to just that. Stop being so lazy. Then check the diet forum. Why are you injecting steroids in your body that you know absolutely nothing about?

uhh... this is highly UNneccessary.. how does this help him
alright man heres a basic rundown pct = post cycle therapy and usually consists of 50mg clomiphene (clomid) and 20 mg tamoxifen (nolvadex) for 4 weeks after your cycle. in short, what pct does is revives your natural testosterone production, when you inject AAS your body ( always trying to stay at homeostasis) shuts down the natural production of test. and the AAS take over. nolvadex- prevents the build up of estrogen in the body because of aromatase (research this a little yourself for specifics) basically it prevents you from growin girl tits (gyno.) also from retaining too much water.

[testisbest]

gyno is when you grow breast like a woman because you have no anti-e. And if you don't run a PCT when your cycle is over, you won't have a hard on for a few months and lose most if not all of your gains and gain a good amount of bodyfat.

[kaberle_15]

last question for you bro, i do appreciate the info tho, how can i hurt myself? im only taking 1 cycle

You aren't fully developed yet, you can stunt your growth, damage your organs, gyno, screw up your endocrine system and hormone levels especially without PCT. Do yourself a favor and dont do the cycle. You dont wanna stop because you are a stubborn child and dont think you will get hurt. Stop being a tard and do some damn research.