my first cycle

[android]

hey out there, im look'n at starting my first cycle and gathering info. gimme some info on starting and coming off and combating the side effects. i'm 210 pds. and 5' 11". how bout eating, double calories immediately? what ever ya got just give it to me. thanks

[Tadpole]

Welcome to the board
I would start by reading the threads marked IMPORTANT in categories you are interested in.( i.e. PCT) You will learn allot by reading the post...

[Jefferey]

hey out there, im look'n at starting my first cycle and gathering info. gimme some info on starting and coming off and combating the side effects. i'm 210 pds. and 5' 11". how bout eating, double calories immediately? what ever ya got just give it to me. thanks

How about your age and the time you have been training.

[android]

i've been reading absolutely everything on here, it almost becomes overload. but my age is 35 and i work out at least 5 days per week. how about ordering gear? everything at once or a little at a time and then start once ive got everything? how often do things really get confiscated?

[MrMe]

Welcome to ar!

First off make sure you get all your gear and PCT before starting. This is a must. If this is your first cycle, most people will say the same, do a 12 week cycle of test enth @ 500mg/week followed by a PCT of at LEAST clomid and nolva. This will let you see how your body responds and from there you can start adding more compounds and have some more fun.

[Hack72]

I agree exactly with what MrMe said, all you need for a first cycle is test enath, or test cyp. at 500mgs/wk, for 12 wks. Good luck man

[android]

ya, i know i need everything at once, i just meant in terms of ordering it. when it comes thru the mail is it better to just order it all at once or a little at a time so that it doesnt get discovered. hell, i cant even start for 4 months n e way. thanks all!!

[testisbest]

order it all and send it to my address. I'll make sure it gets to you safely. J/K

[jamikehat]

i've been reading absolutely everything on here, it almost becomes overload. but my age is 35 and i work out at least 5 days per week. how about ordering gear? everything at once or a little at a time and then start once ive got everything? how often do things really get confiscated?

I prefer all at once, I feel there is less risk
Start when you feel knowledgeable enough to effectively combat what could come your way...Gyno, natural test suppression, hairloss
I have never heard of anyone nor had any problems with 30+orders, but it does happen...

Good luck

[android]

thanks testisbest, i knew i could count on you!!

[testisbest]

you can pm me if you have any questions

[jagdpanther]

Hey Bro,

I'm glad you are reading everything. Below is a little study I guide I put together as a half joke(copy and pasted from another post). If you can talk about the different subjects outlined below then I think your on your way to your first cycle. As of now your questions are to broad for me to feel confident in your knowledge of AAS.
I feel that if I were to give you more specific advice I would only be encouraging you to take risks with your health and possibly generate more negative media about steroids. The risks stem not only from the steroids themselves but also things like the injection protocol. If I don't know that you have put the time in on AAS research how do I know you put it into learning about injecting yourself safely?

Is what you do any of my business? No, unless of course you want advice. You and others may think I' m an a s s for being a stickler but I won't do you a disservice.

I. Anabolic Steroids

______1. Evaluating your health before starting steroids
______2.Testosterone
________A. What is testosterone and what does it do?
________B. Anabolic, Androgenic, and Catabolic what does this mean?
________C. how external testosterone effects ones natural production
________D. The benefits and side effects of supraphysicological doses
______3. DHT and its derivatives
________A. What is DHT and what does it do?
________B. how external DHT effects ones natural production of test
________C. The benefits and side effects of supraphysicological doses
______4. Nandrolone and its derivates
________A. What is Nandrolone and what does it do?
________B. how external Nandrolone effects ones natural production test
________C. The benefits and side effects of supraphysicological doses
______5.Controlling sides
________A. A closer look at Estrogen
___________1. SERMs and AIs
________B. Remember DHT from above?
___________1.Fina what and Dosta who?
________C.More is not always better

II. Cycles
______A. Determining Goals
______B. The big bulking cycles
______C.The classic cutter
______D.Length of cycles
______E. Post cycle therapy (we are not talking about long bike rides)

All required study material is provided for free on the internet (for now).
Advanced subjects such as thyroid meds,HGH, and peptides will be covered
in the second semester.

I wrote this as a half joke but if you follow the syllabus you should have a good foundation.

Good Luck,

Jagdpanther

[testisbest]

Hey Bro,

I'm glad you are reading everything. Below is a little study I guide I put together as a half joke(copy and pasted from another post). If you can talk about the different subjects outlined below then I think your on your way to your first cycle. As of now your questions are to broad for me to feel confident in your knowledge of AAS.
I feel that if I were to give you more specific advice I would only be encouraging you to take risks with your health and possibly generate more negative media about steroids. The risks stem not only from the steroids themselves but also things like the injection protocol. If I don't know that you have put the time in on AAS research how do I know you put it into learning about injecting yourself safely?

Is what you do any of my business? No, unless of course you want advice. You and others may think I' man a s s for being a stickler but I won't do you a disservice.

I. Anabolic Steroids

______1. Evaluating your health before starting steroids
______2.Testosterone
________A. What is testosterone and what does it do?
________B. Anabolic, Androgenic, and Catabolic what does this mean?
________C. how external testosterone effects ones natural production
________D. The benefits and side effects of supraphysicological doses
______3. DHT and its derivatives
________A. What is DHT and what does it do?
________B. how external testosterone effects ones natural production
________C. The benefits and side effects of supraphysicological doses
______4. Nandrolone and its derivates
________A. What is Nandrolone and what does it do?
________B. how external testosterone effects ones natural production
________C. The benefits and side effects of supraphysicological doses
______5.Controlling sides
________A. A closer look at Estrogen
___________1. SERMs and AIs
________B. Remember DHT from above?
___________1.Fina what and Dosta who?
________C.More is not always better

II. Cycles
______A. Determining Goals
______B. The big bulking cycles
______C.The classic cutter
______D.Length of cycles
______E. Post cycle therapy (we are not talking about long bike rides)

All required study material is provided for free on the internet (for now).
Advanced subjects such as thyroid meds,HGH, and peptides will be covered
in the second semester.

I wrote this as a half joke but if you follow the syllabus you should have a good foundation.

Good Luck,

Jagdpanther

Great post. I think I've seen you on another board?

[android]

hey thats a great post jag. everything you say is exactly right on. thats why im in school, im on diversion now for previous indiscretions between my wife and i and have to submit to "ua's", so i cant even start for another 4 months so its all about study study study for me until then. right now i just hit the gym for 5 times a week and keep my diet tight. all good things will come.

[jagdpanther]

Great post. I think I've seen you on another board?

Yes Bro ,

I'm on another AAS board. I've mentioned b4 that it is funny the way things work out. This is one of the first boards I started to follow when I began to do research and I constantly reread the profiles but for some reason it was the last board I joined, go figure. Full cycle.

Thanks for the compliment.

b cool,

Jagdpanther

[jagdpanther]

hey thats a great post jag. everything you say is exactly right on. thats why im in school, im on diversion now for previous indiscretions between my wife and i and have to submit to "ua's", so i cant even start for another 4 months so its all about study study study for me until then. right now i just hit the gym for 5 times a week and keep my diet tight. all good things will come.

The gym, diet, and study are all good things to hear about bro. Sorry to hear about the problems at home, I wish well there.

b cool,

Jagdpanther

[testisbest]

Yes Bro ,

I'm on another AAS board. I've mentioned b4 that it is funny the way things work out. This is one of the first boards I started to follow when I began to do research and I constantly reread the profiles but for some reason it was the last board I joined, go figure. Full cycle.

Thanks for the compliment.

b cool,

Jagdpanther

exactly, I started reading anabolic review when I was 18 in 2001. But this is the last board I've joined as well.

[android]

bump that fella's, i've checkd out some other sites also but this is the one i keep coming back to. so the more i read i'm thinkn test cyp @ 400mg per week. is gyno or hair loss something i need to be considering with this as it will of course be my first cycle. also what about taken some winny or dbol with it. what are the possible sides with one of those added to it?

[testisbest]

just run the test cyp @ 400mg a week with idex on hand. You have all the time in the world to worry about other compounds. Shouldn't have to worry about gyno but DO NOT start your cycle without nolva on hand. I'm here if you need any help.

[android]

ok, but what about hair loss, god nows i love my hair!!! not ready to be bald or start to go that way just yet. but mayb i have to take one for the team. this mayb a dumb question but what is "idex"?? as far as anti-estrogens go i wont leave home without them. oh, how about sleeplessness? do they act like thermogenics and make hard to sleep? and i've read for some it makes them horny and some, not so much? whats the over and under on this one? ive taken cialias and viagra many a time and know how it works but can anyone say the "cia" is actually comparative?

[jagdpanther]

ok, but what about hair loss, god nows i love my hair!!! not ready to be bald or start to go that way just yet. but mayb i have to take one for the team. this mayb a dumb question but what is "idex"?? as far as anti-estrogens go i wont leave home without them. oh, how about sleeplessness? do they act like thermogenics and make hard to sleep? and i've read for some it makes them horny and some, not so much? whats the over and under on this one? ive taken cialias and viagra many a time and know how it works but can anyone say the "cia" is actually comparative?

Does Male pattern baldness run on your mother's side of the family? This type of baldness is passed on the x chromosome you get from your mom. If male pattern baldness is not there then you need not worry. If it does run on your mom's side of the family you may wish to research finistride. This drug will inhibit the 5-alpha reductase from converting test to dht. dht is what actually accelerates male pattern baldness.

idex looks like a typo to me I think he ment adex.

What happen to studying on your own for a bit bro? these questions still reflect a lack of effort. Sorry but I call it as I see it. Seems you want the easy way -let someone else do the foot work.

[testisbest]

I've never lost any hair from test and none of my friends have but it is possible. Adex is ameridex, look it up in the steroid profile. As far as sleeplessness goes, I have a hard time falling asleep but I always wake up feeling well rested. Now about being horny, not a second goes by that I don't think about tearing something up. No joke. I use viagra even though I don't need it just to put a hurting on some poor woman but that doesn't compare to the drive that test gives me. Hope this helps.

[android]

no, no easy way here for me. i'm just looking for some up to the minute advice so please dont flame me now. christ, if i read anymore i think my head might explode!! this is just a great site, and the more i read the more questions it creates. that just makes me think i'm reading to much at once. but if you look back at alot of the thread catagories, they're old....and testisbest, i'm down with ya on that, i've never been with a girl who didnt enjoy a good viagra pounding!!!

[testisbest]

Yea, you know that they go tell all their friends what kind of an animal you are after you have to carry them to the bathroom cause they can't walk.

[android]

btw jag, no, mpb doesnt run on my mom's side but of course that still doesnt mean it cant happen to me. but my biggest concern is, if and when i start just a test cycle, is 400mg enough to worry about causing hair loss. see, i'm thinkn that take'n an anti-est on the outset of a cycle to combat mpb, gyno, and mayb acne isnt the worst idea in the world just to b safe. and i really havent read n e thing to answer that, so you tell me, do i ask, or just keep reading endless post's that dont necessarily answer the questions i have? just look'n for some direstion, thanks pal.

[android]

ya test!!!!!!!!! release the BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!

[testisbest]

I can't tell you that you def. won't lose your hair but I wouldn't worry about it. The best thing I can tell you is to run 200 or 300mg a week for your first cycle and if all goes well then take it to the next level.

[jagdpanther]

btw jag, no, mpb doesnt run on my mom's side but of course that still doesnt mean it cant happen to me. but my biggest concern is, if and when i start just a test cycle, is 400mg enough to worry about causing hair loss. see, i'm thinkn that take'n an anti-est on the outset of a cycle to combat mpb, gyno, and mayb acne isnt the worst idea in the world just to b safe. and i really havent read n e thing to answer that, so you tell me, do i ask, or just keep reading endless post's that dont necessarily answer the questions i have? just look'n for some direstion, thanks pal.

It has to run on your mom's side of the family for you to get it. DHT only accelerates a pre existing condition. Aromatase Inhibitors will only prevent test from being converted to estrogen. Acceleration of male pattern baldness isn't a side effect of estrogen. It is a side effect of DHT.

On where to find information:

First place to start is sterid profiles. Start with a testosterone profile. There are sections on Aromatse inhibitors as well. If worse comes to worse copy and paste some of the things from my joke syllabus and do a google search. You can even copy and paste words from posts into google and get answers. To be honest alot of the posts are not the place to start because there can be a lot of misinformation.

Here is the url for some profiles:

http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php

[android]

test, i tried to pm you. do i need at least 25 post for that? i get a message saying im not allowd. whats up wit dat? just noticed you're in or aroound louisiana? i love, d south!!! so just wondering how tings are in d south? i workd in vicksburg ms. all year long in 05' and just loved it. no better place to be than d south!

[android]

ahh, ok jag, i got that, i think i need to quit reading for a couple o days, i think i've entered overload!! i'm reading so much im just confusing one thing with anothr. and just want you to know, i'm working thru your syllabus and actually writing down what i think are the answers. but please remember, that doesnt mean i wont need to come back to here for some clarifacation on some things.

[testisbest]

test, i tried to pm you. do i need at least 25 post for that? i get a message saying im not allowd. whats up wit dat? just noticed you're in or aroound louisiana? i love, d south!!! so just wondering how tings are in d south? i workd in vicksburg ms. all year long in 05' and just loved it. no better place to be than d south!

Hey, I just tried to pm you and it didn't go through. I sent you an e-mail. Let me know if you got it. And yea, I spent almost 5 years in the navy moving all over the place and there's no place like the south (for me).

[android]

test got your email. thanks. so u a navy man?? well so am i, uss rangerycvn-61. glad to know ya mate! so u'r in layf. huh. well i do hail repair on cars and chase storms all over now, and i couldnt help but to notice just b4 fat tuesday, new iberia supposed got hail damage. got ne info bout that? i c ur only about 20 miles away from there.

[testisbest]

I was on the uss lincoln and the kitty hawk when it was still in Japan. I didn't even know that new iberia got hail in feb. I live in south lafayette so I'm only about 15 min. from New Iberia.

[jagdpanther]

that doesnt mean i wont need to come back to here for some clarifacation on some things.

I think its cool to ask questions and get clarification. The better the question
hopefully the better the answer. I can get a little knowledge obsessive -not that I'm always right.

I was never in the navy but I've been on:
the carriers JFK and Intrepid
the submarines Palamento and tigerfish (or tigershark can't remember )
the cruiser USS Salem
the destroyer uss fletcher
and a few other modern smaller ships I'd call them destroyers by size but I don't believe that be there designation
I want to go see the uboat exhibit in Chicago
and I'd like to dive the uboat wreck off Block island as well as Scappa flow some day. I'll prbably do the uboat this summer or fall not sure when I'll get a chance to do scappa flow.