Considering 1st cycle, unsure what to use. Suggestions/Help?

[LittleBitch]

Allo allo,

Now after reading a few stickys around the place I noticed that you don't realy enjoy utter newbie posts asking basic shit, so I'll try to be as succinct as possible. I've done a bit of research on the substances I'm about to ask about but it's still all a bit of a jumble in my mind and I'm just looking for more of a solid conclusion of sorts from those who have experience in the field.

So my goals are: Bulk Up, but not be overly huge. Just a bit more thicket than what I am at the moment (5'10" @ ~73 kg).

I've got a fairly rapid metabolism so I find it hard to put on weight, and once it's on, I find it hard to keep it. I guess I'm what you'd call a "hard gainer." I suppose the good side of this is that I've got a somewhat low BFI at around 11% which leaves me with a bit of definition around the place which is nice. :P

I'm 21 and Basically I've been training for 2 and a bit years, and over the years have become more and more serious about my training. For example when I first started I completely neglected my diet and had a shit regime. Soon the regime was taken care of, and I've had a good diet for about a year now. So everything is good now.

A very brief run down on what I may eat on an average day at the moment: (not a set diet)
Meal 1: Wheat Cereal / Oats & Fruit
Meal 2: Mass Gainer Shake (50/50 protein/carbs)
Meal 3: Bowl of Brown Rice, Tuna, and Melted Cheese / A nice carb & protein packed sub from Subway or something similar
~15g of Tribulus
Workout
Meal 4: Mass Gainer Shake (50/50)
Meal 5: The dinner that mum makes (usually consists of a big slab of red meat or white meat and heaps of vegies)
Meal 6: If I'm hungry I'll have a tuna/cheese/mayo toasted sandwich an hour before bed

If it's available (usually available 3 times a week) I'll have a big chicken breast for lunch and mix it in with potatoes and stuff. Salmon's on the menu sometimes as well. Also, I llluuurrvvv cottage cheese. As I said, it's a brief run down, don't look too much into it.

My workout regime is basically 4 days a week, around 1-1.5 hours per session, sometimes 2 hours if I'm slack :P

Ok, so here are my queries:

1. First of all while it's on my mind, I recently purchased a supply of MRM Ecdysterone. I read a fair bit about it and the literature (I stick to sources that DONT sell m the product they review) basically gave a pretty impressive review, even with skepticism in the back of my mind. But I can't help but feel I've still been ripped off and bought into the hype of it all. Can anyone shed some light on this little bitch for me? Cheers.

2. Now I don't like injections and needles, and I certainly don't have the balls to stick one into my own body, so when I first queried my PT (he's a competing BB... a big bugger :P) I asked him how he found Dbol 's effectiveness because I didn't like injecting. His first reply was that I shouldn't be using Dbol just on its own, and that if I wanted to use an oral steroid I should use Stanazolol. But then I read in this forum that Stanazolol isnt recommended on its own? Keeping in mind my goals are to bulk up a little bit.

3. In terms of oral steroids (once again, I apologise for not wanting to inject myself / have injections for my first steroid cycle.... but you know how it is, cut me some slack? :P) is there such thing as an effective "oral only" first time cycle? Imagine that all I had available was oral roids, which would you recommend? I know that Dbol is great for strength and mass gains, but why would my PT not recommend it on its own, and instead opt for Stanazolol which (from what I gather) is more of a cutting substance? Are there other orals which you'd recommend as more suitable?

4. Thats all I can think of at this time, hopefully I didn't make you angry by asking too many repeated questions :P

Cheers guys, appreciate it.

PS. I'm only looking to do a test only cycle if you havent worked that out by now, as I simply dont want to overload my body with all these new fandangle hormones etc, and also because it would take a substantial chunk out of my bank account (as a uni student, i need all the money i can get :P)

[Dude-Man]

Your diet looks utterly terrible. I used to think i was a hardgainer, until i found these forums and found out that i was just a bad eater. Check out the diet forums. I use Mikexxl's lean bulk diet pretty much year round, with modifications because i have a higher BMR than he does.

[LittleBitch]

Your diet looks utterly terrible. I used to think i was a hardgainer, until i found these forums and found out that i was just a bad eater. Check out the diet forums. I use Mikexxl's lean bulk diet pretty much year round, with modifications because i have a higher BMR than he does.

I do eat most of that shite that was lsited in the table on that page. As I said, it was an average day of eating. When I'm at uni I eat heaps of potatoes and nice green leafy shit, big slabs of chicken breast, more rice, etc. I continue to maul down containers of cottage cheese, and everynow and then if I'm feeling brave I'll try eat myself a few smoked salmon fillets. Not to mention about 2L water a day. Multivitamins etc.

What I originally wrote down wasn't intended to be an exact replica of my diet, I eat more than I listed, it was just a brief run down.

Having said that, I'm more than happy for you to tell me specifically what you thought was wrong with it, just incase I do in fact have the wrong idea. All suggestions are welcome.

[elitetky]

hi buddy , your first cycle you should inject Test .

if you are afraid to do it yourself you can always ask your buddy to help you to inject

if you are bulking use Dbol , as for bulking clean diet its not very good ideal you will need all the caloris

PT recommend stanozolo , it is a very good drug i assume because locally here its highly recommended as it is a very mild drug and keep gains long

as for Dbol , you gain fast but you cant keep those gains because they are waters and fats storage only

your diet Looks not realli good , but for my own oponion as a uni student and you are not competiting . WHY BROTHE about clean food that much?

just make sure you dont always JUNK kfc mac donald everyday !

[LittleBitch]

Hey thanks.

Yeah, I get the idea that my first cycle should be an injectable one. Needless to say because I am that little bit scared of injections, I haven't really looked into any injectables. Which one (off top of your head) would you recommend I go read into? I've got limited resources of cash, so I'd need one that has low aromatization because I doubt I could afford the cycle + inhibitor cycle. Also, how often would I have to inject? Is it once a day, or once a week, etc?

Als, it's not like I see my PT budy all that often, and getting on the juice isn't something that I'd tell any of my mates (they're simply not accepting of anything vaguely illegal) so that they could help me. I suppose I could learnt to do it myself, but again it all comes down to frequency.

"PT recommend stanozolo , it is a very good drug i assume because locally here its highly recommended as it is a very mild drug and keep gains long"

I haven't seem to find anythign info on Stanazolol being good for bulking, but more for strength and cutting. Will it still have some small bulking effect? I'm still hapy to hear about the strength gains, which lead to heavier reps, = more growth etc.


An yeah, I haven't eaten McDonalds or any of that crap for a solid 2 months now, the idea of it sort of sickens me and I can only think 'wtf am i doing this to myself' :P

[shrpskn]

Welcome to AR LittleBitch.

I'm sure if you stick around and educate yourself everything should pan out for you.

Good luck,

[Pro_built7]

idk what you're worried about sticking doesn't hurt at all I remember being scared of it, and then finally doing it and thinking " wow i was bein a LittleBitch" haha

[LittleBitch]

idk what you're worried about sticking doesn't hurt at all I remember being scared of it, and then finally doing it and thinking " wow i was bein a LittleBitch" haha

Yeh, I'm starting to get that impression :P

Btw, the engine setup in your avatar looks HOT.

Have any of you guys ever used/know anyone who has used Ecdysterone? Not an anabolic steroid from wht I've read, but it's apparently a plant hormone which leads to great protein synthesis by upping the nitrogen balance in your body. Know anything about it?

[y100adics]

hi buddy , your first cycle you should inject Test .

if you are afraid to do it yourself you can always ask your buddy to help you to inject

if you are bulking use Dbol , as for bulking clean diet its not very good ideal you will need all the caloris

PT recommend stanozolo , it is a very good drug i assume because locally here its highly recommended as it is a very mild drug and keep gains long

as for Dbol , you gain fast but you cant keep those gains because they are waters and fats storage only

your diet Looks not realli good , but for my own oponion as a uni student and you are not competiting . WHY BROTHE about clean food that much?

just make sure you dont always JUNK kfc mac donald everyday !

I'd be interested to know what your diet consists of ... considering the advice you gave.

Also, just curious, what are your reasons for injecting test first cycle?

[lilripped]

I would recommend test enanthate or cypionate only as a good first cycle. But if you are absolutely scared to death of needles, you might want to do some research on turanabol. All really depends on what you are looking to achieve.

[Mr.Akeym]

I personally had great gains off of Test Cypionate (20 lbs) for a first cycle. Give Cyp a try.