4-CH-Methyltrienolone

[HardCharger]

Any one ever use this? If so what did you think? How were the sides? The gains? What doeses did you run? would you ever use it again? My suplier carries it now and when I saw the price of it a had to figure out what people thought about it.

[shrpskn]

Have a read: http://www.steroid.com/Methyltrienolone.php

I wouldn't touch it. Risk to benefit ratio is no good IMO.

Better off going with injectable tren .

[Random]

Im running it now--my log is in the log section...

good so far..

CD

[HardCharger]

Ok, after some reserch we've established that 4-CH-Methyltrienolone isn't the same as Methyltrienolone because it has a 4-CH alteration. Still not sure what this means or how it would effect it. Anyone have any ideas?

[shrpskn]

I'm curious now as well.

[goose]

guys 4-CH-Methyltrienolone is not the same as Methyltrienolone!!!!!!

It costs around 300$ a gram.I have no idea what the added 4-ch will do.

[HardCharger]

So I got a reply from my suplier today about this stuff. Here's what he said.

"it's simlilar to 4-chlorde-testosterone . ( tbol )

just an 4-chlorder ester on metribolone. it's said the powder has
better effect."

Since Tbol is the gental Dbol I wonder if this 4-ch alteration has an effect on liver toxicity. If anyone has any idea on this please share your opinions.

My supler has quoted me quite a bit less than what you stated goose.

[Dude-Man]

The naming is confusing. If it were a chloro group, it's be 4-chloro or 4-cl. not 4-Ch. There's no studies on it under that name, and i can't seem to locate a structure or even an empyrical forumla referencing it. But if the source says that's the difference, then i guess that's what we have to work with eh?

A 4-chloro group prevents 5-alpha reduction. Methyltrienolone in doesn't aromatize, and 4chloro-MT wouldn't either. There are no studies on dihydromethyltrienolone, so I'm not sure if blocking reduction would make MT more potent, less potent, or do nothing at all. Since it's a 19-nor, i would assume that it makes it more potent, using the logic that since DHN is less potent than Nandrolone , maybe DHMT would be less androgenic than MT. This is of course, assuming that MT is affected by 5-alpha reductase at all. Trenbolone (and therefore assumedly MT) doesn't alpha-reduce readily to begin with.. so the addition of the chloro group is sort of confusing.

Toxicity wise? Probably not going to make a difference.

[shrpskn]

^^ Good post Dude.

[HardCharger]

Wow! Thanks for the awsome post man. I'm a little confused as well. I've read up on MT and Tbol trying to figure out how this would effect it. All I can come up with is that maybe it effects the binding ability. I'm in a bit of a rush so I'll go deeper into what I'm thinking later. But in the mean time let me know what you think.

[Dude-Man]

Wow! Thanks for the awsome post man. I'm a little confused as well. I've read up on MT and Tbol trying to figure out how this would effect it. All I can come up with is that maybe it effects the binding ability. I'm in a bit of a rush so I'll go deeper into what I'm thinking later. But in the mean time let me know what you think.

Meh. I think i know where you're going. MT doesn't readily lend itself to androgen binding proteins to begin with though, so adding a chloro group might not make much of a difference there either. I'm going to look into it a bit more and see if there's anything we might've missed.

[HardCharger]

I got stuck of test insted of tren .... i'm a moron

[Dude-Man]

Yeah, you're a little messed up. Methyltestosterone is not the same as metribolone/methyltrienolone (two names for the same compound.) It's just a weird compound they're presenting.

[HardCharger]

I had nothing else to compare this stuff with so I checked around and found what type of effects the alteration of the 4-chloro would have on test compared to tren . For test by putting a structural alterations right on top of the 4-position, it cannot be 5-alpha reduced to dihydrotestosterone, thereby limiting a more androgenic form in androgen specific tissue like scalp, prostate and skin. By doing this you avoid all problems associated with DHT formation like extreme cases of acne and serious hair loss. So one would think that it would have similar effects on tren right?

[Dude-Man]

I had nothing else to compare this stuff with so I checked around and found what type of effects the alteration of the 4-chloro would have on test compared to tren. For test by putting a structural alterations right on top of the 4-position, it cannot be 5-alpha reduced to dihydrotestosterone, thereby limiting a more androgenic form in androgen specific tissue like scalp, prostate and skin. By doing this you avoid all problems associated with DHT formation like extreme cases of acne and serious hair loss. So one would think that it would have similar effects on tren right?

Yeah, but like i mentioned earlier, tren doesn't 5-alpha reduce in any appreciable amount anyway.

[guest589745]

Since it's a 19-nor, i would assume that it makes it more potent, using the logic that since DHN is less potent than Nandrolone, maybe DHMT would be less androgenic than MT.

But isn't Dehydroboldenone more androgenic than Boldenone ? So I guess you could say the opposite as well..........?

[guest589745]

Yeah, you're a little messed up. Methyltestosterone is not the same as metribolone/methyltrienolone (two names for the same compound.) It's just a weird compound they're presenting.

I got them confused a while back too.

[Swifto]

The same as Tbol having the 4-chloro alteration. Wont aromotase or 5a reduce.

[fred9]

really interested what the 4-CH is..
the abbreviation CH is cyclohexane, but that also doesnt really make sense i think..
Also tried to search for r1881 (methyltrienolone ) but cant find shit about it..
i think we just have to try it..

[Random]

Also tried to search for r1881 (methyltrienolone ) but cant find shit about it..
i think we just have to try it..

This is in the steroid profiles Fyi

CD

[shrpskn]

^^ Yes, CD is right. There is plenty of info on methyltrienolone , but with a 4-CH alteration and the powder being so damn expensive, I would like to know what makes this compound so special from standard methyltrienolone, other than what I've seen mentioned above, but I still think there is some unanswered questions with this stuff.

[Dude-Man]

The same as Tbol having the 4-chloro alteration. Wont aromotase or 5a reduce.

But methyltrienolone doesn't aromatize or 5-alpha reduce to begin with. That's what makes it so strange to add that chloro group (if that's what's even being added).

[fred9]

This is in the steroid profiles Fyi

CD

yeah i meant in combi with 4-CH...

[shrpskn]

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