Staying relatively lean on a bulker?

**Big Papi JR.** · 03-09-2007, 10:56 PM

OK! So I'm planning on running my most intense cycle to date.
1-2 Anadrol 75mg/ed
1-11 Test Enth 800mg/wk
1-9 Deca 600mg/wk

I'm looking to blow up off this cycle, most likely gain 30-35lbs. My only concern is bloating. I tend to bloat up quite easily, and Armidex only helps me so much. I HATE looking like a pumpkin head-with bloated up face- while on cycle. My bulking diet is realitively clean. It can be a little better, but w/e. Next time around I'm gonna stear away from foods high in sodium (my body reacts pretty badly to sodium I bloat up like a balloon). I'm looking for any suggestions on how to stear away from the excess bloat if that is at all possible. I have unlimited access to Ephedrine (ECA), Superdrol, Clen and Tren , if that would help. I don't know, I'm open to any and all suggestions-drop a compound and/or up/lower dosages...whatever! Money/gear supply is not a concern.

YES, I already know the norm is to run orals for 4 weeks, but in my previous experiences with drol, my gains seemed to taper off after week 2.

**Benches505** · 03-09-2007, 11:16 PM

every compund in that cycle screams bloat to me. When running a similar cycle the addition of tren helped me with the bloat and also assisted in lean bulking.

**Big Papi JR.** · 03-09-2007, 11:25 PM

Originally Posted by Benches505

every compund in that cycle screams bloat to me. When running a similar cycle the addition of tren helped me with the bloat and also assisted in lean bulking.

Yea man I know those compounds are typically heavy bloaters for those who are prone (like myself), but I was wondering if any other had any success running some type of AI or other compound that limited bloating. Any testimonials for Letro?

**1buffsob** · 03-09-2007, 11:36 PM

Even at 7%bf and a clean as hell diet, I'd still blow up like a balloon using adrol and deca . You need to switch compounds if you're really concerned with bloat. AI's will only help so much. Anadrol for example is a DHT-derivitive. An AI won't help at all for that.

You should look at using other compounds if you don't like the moon face look you're likely to get with these.

**Big Papi JR.** · 03-09-2007, 11:45 PM

Originally Posted by 1buffsob

Even at 7%bf and a clean as hell diet, I'd still blow up like a balloon using adrol and deca . You need to switch compounds if you're really concerned with bloat. AI's will only help so much. Anadrol for example is a DHT-derivitive. An AI won't help at all for that.

You should look at using other compounds if you don't like the moon face look you're likely to get with these.

I know Anadrol = bloat, but I LOVE this drug. My body reacts so well to it. I was thinking I would be better off if I removed it, but damn I would love to stick with it. Well would there be any way to get rid of the bloat after the first 2 weeks?

**Big Papi JR.** · 03-10-2007, 12:35 AM

buuuuuuuuuump... i need some testimonials here guys lol Also, has anyone successfully gotten rid of drol bloat while still on cycle?

**nandro_shagg** · 03-10-2007, 07:51 AM

damn i was considering running something similar...ill reconsider the drol now...anyway, could you maybe run some winstrol tabs immediatly after the drol? i dont know just a suggestion but i think if your only running drol for 2 wks you could jump winny in right behind it for say another 2 or 4 wks...

**Big Papi JR.** · 03-10-2007, 10:37 AM

Originally Posted by nandro_shagg

damn i was considering running something similar...ill reconsider the drol now...anyway, could you maybe run some winstrol tabs immediatly after the drol? i dont know just a suggestion but i think if your only running drol for 2 wks you could jump winny in right behind it for say another 2 or 4 wks...

i suppose you could run another oral, but i'm not sure if throwing winny in the mix would be a big help as far as bloat is concerned.

**plzr8** · 03-10-2007, 10:42 AM

bro run aromasin & keep your diet in check and you will be fine

**Big Papi JR.** · 03-10-2007, 10:56 AM

aromasin over letro?

**1buffsob** · 03-10-2007, 12:58 PM

Drol bloat will usually take about a week before it fully subsides. And no, there is nothing you can take to completely stop drol bloat. Best thing to do is just drink lots of water and hopefully the bloat will be minimal. And for the record, running winny or another comparable dht-derivitive during or after adrol will do nothing for the bloat.

Also, if you bloat on deca , then you bloat on deca. Some can take 800mg and be fine. Some, like me, can be sub 8%bf, take 200mg deca, and still look bloated as hell. No amount of AI's will help if you are the latter. So I say again, look into other compounds known not to bloat if you're really concerned with it. But if you're really wanting to still do it, then you're just going to have to walk around looking bloated. Just don't bitch about it, you've been warned.

**Swifto** · 03-10-2007, 01:09 PM

"30-35lbs" in 11 weeks is some serious weight. Whats your diet look like? Posted it in the Diet Forum?

**Big Papi JR.** · 03-14-2007, 11:21 PM

I'm not a hard gainer. I gained roughly 27lbs on Test Cyp 500mg/wk (1-9) with Anadrol 75mg/ed (1-3) as a kickstart. Truthfully, I really don't have a set diet. I just eat a lot and eat right.