steroids in the military

**rebel86** · 03-11-2007, 12:56 AM

anyone know if the military is testing for steroids these days? I know they didn't use to, but there has been talk about it lately. anyone got any info on this?

**slimswole** · 03-11-2007, 04:00 AM

No they still don't unless you give them reason too. They still are just using random urinalysis to test for rec drugs. One of my boys got seperated though because they found some in his locker and tested him for it after. BUt you're still good.

**roadblock2** · 03-11-2007, 04:59 AM

Your best bet is to gradually gain mass over a period of time. If you gain, let's say 15 pounds over 2-3 weeks, then they might test. Remember that it costs the U.S. Military roughly around 3-5 thousand dollars to test someone for testosterone . They test for 6 major drugs, weed, coke, meth, etc.... steroids is not one of them. I just got out of the U.S. Marine Corps and believe me, they tested us all the time. Be smart about it.

**Wino** · 03-11-2007, 06:44 AM

they shouldn't be... steroids would make better soldiers IMO

**redwhiteblue** · 03-11-2007, 07:58 AM

yes the military can test you for steroid use . The commander of your unit must have probable cause before he can have you tested for steroids and when he does he has to get a individual sample sent in and it takes 6-8 weeks for results. if you do it just be careful and dont get to big too fast!

**testisbest** · 03-11-2007, 09:53 AM

I started having kidney problems last year while I was in the navy after I stayed on cycle for 6 months in japan. When they ran my blood they saw what my test levels were and gave me an other than honorable discharge. FYI

**Mealticket** · 03-12-2007, 03:36 AM

Originally Posted by roadblock2

Your best bet is to gradually gain mass over a period of time. If you gain, let's say 15 pounds over 2-3 weeks, then they might test. Remember that it costs the U.S. Military roughly around 3-5 thousand dollars to test someone for testosterone. They test for 6 major drugs, weed, coke, meth, etc.... steroids is not one of them. I just got out of the U.S. Marine Corps and believe me, they tested us all the time. Be smart about it.

wtf?
it cost Me $40 @ a lab last week to get my testosterone tested.
3-5k$...lmao

**Jason865** · 03-12-2007, 03:43 AM

Bad idea #1. Joining the military
Bad idea #2. Using illegal drugs in the military

**roadblock2** · 03-12-2007, 03:44 AM

Hey mealticket, I am just quoting one of the NCIC (Navy Criminal Investigation Center) agents that i know. Remember that the DOD has different standards they go by to test people in the military. They don't want to screw someone for a screw up, and give someone a discharge that could affect their entire life.

**manster__34** · 03-12-2007, 06:11 AM

Originally Posted by Jason865

Bad idea #1. Joining the military
Bad idea #2. Using illegal drugs in the military

How is joining the military a bad idea? That is a very disrespectful statement.

**manster__34** · 03-12-2007, 06:18 AM

The only way the ARMY will test for steroids is if the soldier in questions commander submits a formal request stateing, that he (the commander), has probable cause that leads him to believe the soldier is taking steroids.

**testisbest** · 03-12-2007, 07:59 AM

Originally Posted by manster__34

The only way the ARMY will test for steroids is if the soldier in questions commander submits a formal request stateing, that he (the commander), has probable cause that leads him to believe the soldier is taking steroids.

Bro, all they have to do is drag you to medical and pull some blood to check your hormone levels. That's what they did to me and offered me an other than honorable when my testosterone levels were through the roof.

**Dizz28** · 03-12-2007, 08:20 AM

Originally Posted by Mealticket

wtf?
it cost Me $40 @ a lab last week to get my testosterone tested.
3-5k$...lmao

The military does two types of tests both for Rec drugs and Hormone levels...

Because you did a medical drug test which can't be used against you in anyway legally. Thier is no chain of custody and you could fight that rather easily in court.

The other test is a "legal" drug test which requires chain of custody reciepts, multiple tests/controls and a letter from your C.O. (or equivilant) to authorize the test to maintain accuracy to hold up in court.

...believe me, I know this process...lol

Dizz

**testisbest** · 03-12-2007, 08:26 AM

Originally Posted by Dizz28

The military does two types of tests both for Rec drugs and Hormone levels...

Because you did a medical drug test which can't be used against you in anyway legally. Thier is no chain of custody and you could fight that rather easily in court.

The other test is a "legal" drug test which requires chain of custody reciepts, multiple tests/controls and a letter from your C.O. (or equivilant) to authorize the test to maintain accuracy to hold up in court.

...believe me, I know this process...lol

Dizz

so you're saying that if they see your test levels and you say that you're not on anything, you don't think they will give you a legal drug test? That's exactly what happened to me. I was honest with them and that's why I didn't get a legal test and I didn't get a dishonerable discharge.

**Dizz28** · 03-12-2007, 08:32 AM

Originally Posted by testisbest

so you're saying that if they see your test levels and you say that you're not on anything, you don't think they will give you a legal drug test? That's exactly what happened to me. I was honest with them and that's why I didn't get a legal test and I didn't get a dishonerable discharge.

That isn't what I said at all. That would give them probably cause that you are taking hormones and a "legal" test could be ordered by (like I said earlier) your C.O. or someone in that acting position over you. The Legal test can be held against you in court because of the chain of custody reports and accuracy.

Medical tests can't be held legally against you because there is no chain of custody and a good lawyer could rip those results apart in military court.

Mistake number 1: don't ever admit to taking, selling or accepting anything to anyone.....request a lawyer. You admitted it and that's all they need in both civillian and military court: Confession

Dizz

**testisbest** · 03-12-2007, 08:36 AM

^ I agree but I wasn't going to argue because I was guilty as charged.

**Dizz28** · 03-12-2007, 08:41 AM

Originally Posted by testisbest

^ I agree but I wasn't going to argue because I was guilty as charged.

And, sometimes honesty is the best policy. If someone was to make the military (or any corp. for that matter) spend money and time to investigate you, you could face harsher sentences and fines (especially).

Dizz

**MFT81** · 03-12-2007, 11:27 AM

Originally Posted by Jason865

Bad idea #1. Joining the military
Bad idea #2. Using illegal drugs in the military

If your american, its pretty ironic that because of people willing to make this "Bad idea" you have the right not too.

I havent read one postitive thread or post by you yet bro,

**Jason865** · 03-12-2007, 11:32 AM

Originally Posted by manster__34

How is joining the military a bad idea? That is a very disrespectful statement.

No need to go to your death for a fake war so the rich can get richer. Not since WW2 have we needed to put the troops in harms way but every few years they send them to some BS war to die for nothing.

I respect solders, I do not respect the leaders who start wars and cut the troops medical benefits once they come back wounded.

Go to college, not war.

**Jason865** · 03-12-2007, 11:34 AM

Originally Posted by MFT81

If your american, its pretty ironic that because of people willing to make this "Bad idea" you have the right not too.

I havent read one postitive thread or post by you yet bro,

I am thankful to the men who fought in WW2