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03-11-2007, 09:17 AM #1
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First Cycle (Light - need opinions)
I'm thinking about running 300mg of Test Prop for 10 weeks.
I've heard that I may not notice much in terms of gains, but I would at least like to see how I feel and see how my body reacts to exogenous testosterone .
I'm very lean at the moment, 5'10" 175 8%, I cut purposefully to be able to judge my gains a little better.
What should I do about my PCT - I have nolva on hand (60x20mg caps) and I can get arimidex if necessary. I'm not sure if I should run it during my cycle or just after, and how much?
Need opinions on the cycle itself (will I notice anything, is it ok as a first cycle) and PCT.
Thanks!
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03-11-2007, 09:39 AM #2
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you'll get great results with that cycle but you're going to be stabbing yourself everyday (pretty painful injections as well). I'd suggest a long ester test for a first cycle. 2 painless injects a week.
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03-11-2007, 10:36 AM #3
Originally Posted by testisbest
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03-16-2007, 10:46 AM #4
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hmm... I thought of it the opposite way, and I thought it would be good for me to get used to injections.
ok, I suppose I'll rethink it.
maybe a cyp/eq or enth/eq cycle? or should I just stick with test only?
Also, is Nolva only ok for PCT? It's not a heavy cycle, so I'm not worried unless there's something I don't know.
My PCT will be Nolva
Week 1: 60mg first 2 days, 40 the rest
Week 2: 40mg
Week 3: 20mg
Week 4: 20mg eod
Thanks in advance!
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03-16-2007, 11:00 AM #5
if you do not mind the ed injections mate then go for it.................
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03-16-2007, 11:28 AM #6
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Are you referring to the prop? that would be spread out 100mg 3x per week.
The cyp and eq would be 2x per week.
...and I don't know if I mind the injections...I'm yet to inject something
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03-16-2007, 11:32 AM #7
150 mg every other day will be good. BUt I think you might want to try and make some gains naturally first
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03-16-2007, 12:00 PM #8
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Test only for a first cycle. That way you'll what sides you get with test so when you decide to stack, you'll have a better idea of what is causing sides and what isn't.
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03-16-2007, 12:08 PM #9
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lol, i've been doing this for 6 years... i'm not heavy at 175, but I could go on stage in a week. Sure I could probably be natural and compete at 200, maybe in 2 years time - you can always gain more naturally, but this is a personal choice, thanks for the advice.
Originally Posted by hardgainer1
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03-17-2007, 01:19 PM #10
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Originally Posted by Luke530
Just make sure to eat enough! Also, don't get too caught up about maintaining 8% bf. Go for mass. But this of course is not a recommendation to bulk up and get fat either...
I'd also go 12 weeks.
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03-17-2007, 01:21 PM #11
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Thanks!
Originally Posted by testisbest
Test vs Cyp? I'm not looking to get bloated - I heard and read prop is better in terms of less side effects (such as bloat), and just in case sides occur, it's out of my system faster. I'm looking to put on some good lean weight.
My diet will not be a problem, I'm always spot on. Cardio probably 3x per week.
I know test is test, so I'm sure the water will disappear once PCT starts, but in terms of gains, is one better than the other? I got some good deals on both, and very reputable brands, but the cyp (200mg/ml 10cc) will be cheaper than the prop (100mg/ml 10cc), so if there's no difference, I'd rather go with the cyp and cover a good part of my PCT with the savings
Thanks Again.
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So far so good, they seem to be doing what they’re supposed to.
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