having trouble coming up with second cyle

**lil-SLIM** · 03-13-2007, 04:07 PM

gone through a million possible options and this is wha I came up with

test e 500mg a week 10 weeks frontloaded first week

tbol week 40mg ed 5-12

winnie 40mg ed 5-12

clomid and nolv pct

how's that look? do I need arimidex ? would u add, take away, or change anything?

I want some lean lbs possibly 10

previous cycle was test e dbol and var

**lil-SLIM** · 03-13-2007, 04:41 PM

any advice? opinions? yea? nea?

**Jason865** · 03-13-2007, 04:46 PM

All you need the first few cycles is Test

**THE PUMP** · 03-13-2007, 04:57 PM

2 orals together?

**Benches505** · 03-13-2007, 05:12 PM

Originally Posted by THE PUMP

2 orals together?

Yeah, why the two orals?

**lil-SLIM** · 03-13-2007, 07:14 PM

would that be a waste of money? too liver toxic

the basis for this cycle was a var tbol oral only, except I stacked it with test and traded winiie for var causa cost

**lil-SLIM** · 03-13-2007, 11:07 PM

it must be that the two orals in the var tbol only oral cycle were only put together because of the lack of test

but with test u only use one oral

which would u use with a long ester test and tbol? or winnie? opinions on the outcome of each appreciated.