DNP dosing exponential?

**Manpretty** · 03-14-2007, 12:35 PM

ive been told that as you go up in dosing of DNP the effects are exponential ie 500mged is 10times stronger than 400mged and 600mged is 100 times stronger than 400mged?

those of you that have run it, do you find this to be true??
also i was told it is not very effective at 200mged compared to its effect at rel high doses like 600mged, it is better to run a higher dose for a shorter period of time? true? no? yes? maybe?

thanks for sharing
MP

**Snrf** · 03-14-2007, 12:49 PM

600 is not 100 times stronger than 400..sorry.

i'd rather run 200mg/ed for a month or so than 600 for 10 days, in terms of side effects it'd be much less harsh

**Manpretty** · 03-14-2007, 02:44 PM

Originally Posted by Snrfmaster

600 is not 100 times stronger than 400..sorry.

i'd rather run 200mg/ed for a month or so than 600 for 10 days, in terms of side effects it'd be much less harsh

do you feel that you would lose the same amount on 200mged for a month as you would 600mged for 10 days just less sides?

**Dude-Man** · 03-14-2007, 03:05 PM

Originally Posted by Manpretty

do you feel that you would lose the same amount on 200mged for a month as you would 600mged for 10 days just less sides?

That's a fair estimate.

**Manpretty** · 03-14-2007, 03:46 PM

right on thanks guys!

**Conciliator** · 03-16-2007, 09:00 PM

Originally Posted by Dude-Man

That's a fair estimate.

Right, the effects are linear. Twice the dose means twice the uncoupling and twice the increase in metabolic rate. It's not exponential, though after heat production begins to outstrip your ability to radiate heat, the side effects can quickly escalate with a small increase in dosage.

-Conciliator

**Manpretty** · 03-22-2007, 11:11 PM

ok well im suppose to be writing a paper but.......lol

now that we have established that 200mg over 30days is better than 600 over 10 can anyone tell me what the sides would be like with a dose of 200mg ...is it uncomfortable at all?

as well does the dosing depend on wieght....ie heavier guys would need more lighter guys need less?

**Snrf** · 03-23-2007, 07:48 AM

200mg is pretty mild tbh, u wont notice awhole lot if u got the good stuff, cheaper dnp tends to have more side effects

**BigTurk** · 03-23-2007, 01:49 PM

Dosing does depend on the weight. 4-6mg/kg of bodyweight.

**hocoathlete** · 03-23-2007, 03:50 PM

it all depends on what kind of DNP you get, the crystallized stuff is less dnp per dosage where as industrial is like 100% dnp.

i ran crystal at 200mg ED for a month and a half and lost 26 lbs, crappy diet, and barely no exercise(it was kidna hard lol)

but yeah.

i think i mightgo for a 600mg ED shortcycle to see what that does even though my ass is gonan be burning!

you also got to remember heat rashes an dehydration.

they suck!

**goose** · 03-23-2007, 04:06 PM

I have just started on a DNP cycle.It`s not the cheap DNP has the bad sides it`s the powder form that has moisture.Man that shit is evil.It`s all about fronloading then cutting to 500mg for the rest of the cycle.First two days I dropped a gram,then to 750 for another two days then stable at 500mg.It`s great as you feel the heat in the first day,the worst thing on a DNP cycle is waiting for the inferno.Nothing is more dangerous than an idea,when you only have one.This is for advanced users only.

**hocoathlete** · 03-23-2007, 07:29 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

I have just started on a DNP cycle.It`s not the cheap DNP has the bad sides it`s the powder form that has moisture.Man that shit is evil.It`s all about fronloading then cutting to 500mg for the rest of the cycle.First two days I dropped a gram,then to 750 for another two days then stable at 500mg.It`s great as you feel the heat in the first day,the worst thing on a DNP cycle is waiting for the inferno.Nothing is more dangerous than an idea,when you only have one.This is for advanced users only.

dang bro! a gram?

lol ont catch me doing that, not ause it cold be dangerous..more like BUMP THE HEAT!

lol ima move far north so i can use it during winters without a prob. haha.

**goose** · 03-23-2007, 07:43 PM

Sounds crazy but all it does is get the ball rolling on day one.It was joevettes idea a great former member...Passed to tia then me.It`s really cool,sounds freaky,but the truth is the less time your on this evil drug the better.Got to love DNP tho...

**hocoathlete** · 03-23-2007, 07:50 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Sounds crazy but all it does is get the ball rolling on day one.It was joevettes idea a great former member...Passed to tia then me.It`s really cool,sounds freaky,but the truth is the less time your on this evil drug the better.Got to love DNP tho...

so how much do you lose and how much do you keep off?

**goose** · 03-23-2007, 07:59 PM

Depends on many factors.I should hit 12 pounds of the 8 day cycle.I will keep it all off,as I`m on a 40 day IGF cycle too,by doing this I will not get the rebound effect.Short cycles you avoid alot of shit,Low levels of ATP are a cause of muscle soreness in and of itself in longer cycles; the additional factor of encumbered recovery mechanisms make extreme soreness (and if not careful, catabolism) quite possible.

**hocoathlete** · 03-23-2007, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Depends on many factors.I should hit 12 pounds of the 8 day cycle.I will keep it all off,as I`m on a 40 day IGF cycle too,by doing this I will not get the rebound effect.Short cycles you avoid alot of shit,Low levels of ATP are a cause of muscle soreness in and of itself in longer cycles; the additional factor of encumbered recovery mechanisms make extreme soreness (and if not careful, catabolism) quite possible.

and thats off a gram to 500mg? hmm

how much do you weigh? it probably a diff for me, im at 155.

**Conciliator** · 04-04-2007, 08:02 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

I have just started on a DNP cycle. It`s not the cheap DNP has the bad sides it`s the powder form that has moisture.

The only thing that has bad side effects is an excessive dose of DNP . It's the actual dose of DNP that matters, not the form (i.e. crystal vs powder). Higher dosed DNP products produce greater uncoupling, a greater increase in metabolic rate, greater heat production, and worse sides. Lower dosed products have a reduction in effect. But it's not because it's "good DNP", it's because you're taking less actual DNP (and getting less of an effect on fat loss as well).

Crystal DNP is 75% DNP by weight, whereas powder DNP is essentially 100% DNP after it's dried. This is why if you take equivalent doses of the two forms, the crystal will have fewer sides. It's because you're ingesting less actual DNP (75%) than the equivalent in powder. If you were to adjust your dose of powder by taking 25% less, the two forms would be "therapeautically indistinguishable" as Cutting and Tainter reported in the 1930's. Bascially, everyone who is taking crystal needs to multiply his dose by 0.75 to determine how much DNP he's actually getting.

**Conciliator** · 04-04-2007, 08:06 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

I have just started on a DNP cycle.It`s not the cheap DNP has the bad sides it`s the powder form that has moisture.Man that shit is evil.It`s all about fronloading then cutting to 500mg for the rest of the cycle.First two days I dropped a gram,then to 750 for another two days then stable at 500mg.It`s great as you feel the heat in the first day,the worst thing on a DNP cycle is waiting for the inferno.Nothing is more dangerous than an idea,when you only have one.This is for advanced users only.

Right, a lot of people don't realize that 400mg/day builds up to over 1g of active DNP in your body after just 4 or 5 days. Frontloading is really dangerous for someone who doesn't know their tolerance to the drug, but not as crazy as you'd might think for those who know how they respond.

Also, note that since you're taking crystal DNP, a 1000mg dose only contains 750mg of actual DNP. Your dose of 750mg contains 562g of actual DNP and a 500mg dose contains 375mg of actual DNP. Put in these terms, it doesn't sound nearly as excessive. If you took powder DNP at these lower, actual doses, the effects would be identical to crystal DNP.

**jackman22** · 04-05-2007, 06:53 AM

When i did my dnp cycle i did 200mg for about 18 days then ramped it to 400mg for a few days then 600 for like 2 days (as much as i could handle) got great results. make sure you read the proper threads on the supplements you need as well!

**Conciliator** · 04-05-2007, 03:55 PM

Originally Posted by jackman22

When i did my dnp cycle i did 200mg for about 18 days then ramped it to 400mg for a few days then 600 for like 2 days (as much as i could handle) got great results. make sure you read the proper threads on the supplements you need as well!

You don't "need" any supplements. Thousands of people have lost weight just fine with DNP alone.

**Manpretty** · 04-05-2007, 04:51 PM

seeing as how this got bumped ill ask another q

what is the rebound like after coming off?

**taiboxa** · 04-05-2007, 05:56 PM

Originally Posted by goose4

Sounds crazy but all it does is get the ball rolling on day one.It was joevettes idea a great former member...Passed to tia then me.It`s really cool,sounds freaky,but the truth is the less time your on this evil drug the better.Got to love DNP tho...

THIS IS SO TRUE!
a day on dnp is like being in hell for a week!
hit it hard hit it fast and get off before ur mitochondria MELT ><

**Conciliator** · 04-05-2007, 08:58 PM

Originally Posted by taiboxa

THIS IS SO TRUE!
a day on dnp is like being in hell for a week!
hit it hard hit it fast and get off before ur mitochondria MELT ><

This is true if you're taking an excessive dosage.

Take a proper, safe dosage, and there's no hell and no reason to get it off it quickly. People have a hard time doing this for some reason though. It's like people think they have to ramp their dosage up until their faces start to melt.

**taiboxa** · 04-05-2007, 11:10 PM

Originally Posted by Conciliator

This is true if you're taking an excessive dosage.

Take a proper, safe dosage, and there's no hell and no reason to get it off it quickly. People have a hard time doing this for some reason though. It's like people think they have to ramp their dosage up until their faces start to melt.

i'd rather run a short high dose than a long low dose.
the shit is in ur system so long anyways