Noob wanting to start

[biowerks]

I go to the gym 4 times a week my diet usually consists of 6 egg whites bowl of oatmeal and OJ with a protein shake on my way to work, while at work I eat about 8 ounces of beef jerky and a couple of oranges or apples for lunch my office has a gym so I hit the free weights for half an hour and then eat a can of chicken and a bunch of veggies (cold) and a shake then I get off work and hit the gym for a couple of hours and when I get home I mix it up between a big fillet of salmon or other type of fish or a turkey breast rice or pasta and veggies do some push ups and crunches and I usually don't eat after that but if I do its a can of chicken or tuna with crackers. I am gaining slowly now but would like the benefits of some steroids. I wont use needles so I have to get an oral, I really don't know much about steroids but have learned from a few people about the bitch tit problem and I think that that means that I should stay away from anything that causes (aromatization) <-? but I want the big gains that cut fat also, for some reason even though I run I cant get rid of all of it. I was thinking androl but I don't want to burn my liver out will I have a problem with a month or a 6 weeks of it? I am familiar with other forums that I am a member of (reefcentral.com) that everyone wants to flame the new guy and tell him he's an idiot but can we just cut through that and give me some good advice?

oh yea 6' 2" 240lbs

[anaBROLIC]

why wont you use needles?

[king6]

why wont you use needles?

Getting really tired of this.

Man up, reach down grab a hold and stick yourself. I am running prop, I stick myself everyday. I am accustomed to it now, just like brushing my teeth.

[biowerks]

Just don't wanna make that leap. My step brother was into drugs and I just really don't like them at all and it isn't an option for me. personal choice nothing against those who choose to do that.

[anaBROLIC]

ya i dont understand how someone can post about how "ready" they are to step over and use steroids but say they "wont" use needles. im just curious as to why? no flame.

[Titleist]

Most people won't recommend an oral only cycle for different reasons. However, some have had success with only orals. I have never done an oral only cycle, nor will I. If it is your 1st cycle you need to go with Test. There are many reasons for this. Read, Read, Read and Read bro. These forums contain very good information. Hit up the Educational threads & steroid profiles forums and go from there. Make sure you also know about a proper Post Cycle Therapy also. There are many things to take into account before using gear. Back to your question though, Test E or C at 4-500 mg per week is a good 1st cycle.

[topnotch]

more than anything, injecting is a lot safer and healthier for your body than the orals. They are so harsh on the liver, if you look into it more, maybe injectables would be more appealing. And you can run long esters so that you only have to inject 1-2 times per week which after you get used to it is really easy. You should go to the diet forum to get your diet in check, and maybe evaluate your training. May easily be over training just by the way you've worded it.. Just stick around here and research a lot, and you'll get all the advice and learn anything you need to know man. Welcome

[king6]

Just don't wanna make that leap. My step brother was into drugs and I just really don't like them at all and it isn't an option for me. personal choice nothing against those who choose to do that.

Steroids are not drugs. They are not even in the same category. The fact is, you will make better gains with an injectable steroid. The only steroid you should be considering for a first cycle is test. If you really really want to run an oral, run anavar. You wont gain much, but that is your best bet for an oral only, maybe Tbol as well, but don't expect much. Plus, if your diet is not on track, then steroids wont do shyte for you. The only way steroids can over come a bad diet is to take them at super high doses, also not something recommended.

[biowerks]

well, it kinda seems unanimous. how do you get the needles? and what would you guys suggest as a good test? and believe me before I start anything like this I will research it well and change my diet and workout schedule accordingly I just kinda thought that injectables were more dangerous than oral, and I wasn't suggesting that steroids were drugs I was just likening the needle use to things I saw my brother doing.

[biowerks]

what if I did use anabol oral arent there things that I can take to counteract the bad effects of it? like femara

or are there any other orals that dont have the side effects like an oral deca-durabolin?

[topnotch]

The banner up top..arr.com you can get syringes from...for a first cycle, all you need is a long ester test such as test cyp or test eth, and run it at 500mg/week split up into two injections, for 12 weeks long, and then have proper post cycle therapy ready.

[Titleist]

Research bro. You got a lotta reading to do. Test only needs to be your 1st cycle. Needles can either be obtained at your local pharmacy depending on where you live...Also ar-r.com sells them as do other internet sites.

[SMAN12b]

check out s i t e i n j e c t i o n s .com so you can learn how its done

Injecting is by far a better way to go as orals are hard on the liver and your gains will be better from injectables. JMHO

[biowerks]

do you get any results physically from these tests, or are they just to see if you get sick or what?

[Titleist]

do you get any results physically from these tests, or are they just to see if you get sick or what?

LOL! No bro Testosterone!! Cypionate, Enanthate, Propionate, Suspension. These are different types of testosterones. Long and short estered...Read up on them in the steroid profiles. READ!

[Titleist]

Testosterone is the steroid to use on 1st cycles.

[topnotch]

Dude, not to flame, but obviously you are not ready whatsoever for a cycle...hold off for awhile, research like crazy, hang around here and then think about it.

[Schmidty]

IMO ur not ready to cycle

[biowerks]

I appreciate your concerns maybe I should do a little more reading before beginning on this... I was kinda under the impression that I could just take some pills and get bigger so long as I ate right and lifted alot. does anyone have any ideas where I can go to get a baseline understanding on how to begin? I know that these forums are a great place for info but information is kinda fragmented so if there is a site that lays it out in laymans terms so that I can understand better what I am reading when I am searching the forums.

[Snrf]

IMO ur not ready to cycle

+1


and your diet sucks, no way in hell you're a decent 240lbs eating like that

[scaramouche]

why bother posting in this forum if you have nothing worth reading to say...................
Booz...............

[jagdpanther]

I appreciate your concerns maybe I should do a little more reading before beginning on this... I was kinda under the impression that I could just take some pills and get bigger so long as I ate right and lifted alot. does anyone have any ideas where I can go to get a baseline understanding on how to begin? I know that these forums are a great place for info but information is kinda fragmented so if there is a site that lays it out in laymans terms so that I can understand better what I am reading when I am searching the forums.

Become familiar with the sterid profiles, the Testosterones are where one should start.

http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php

after you are done reading, reread it again and refer to them often.


Then move on to here for a summary about the difference between SERMs and AIs:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94545

Then browse through the IMPROTANT stickys on the PCT Forum. Read the Stickys before looking at individual posts.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=77

Here is an educational forum made up of all stickys, these have been selected because they are useful. Please look through these.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12

All of the links I referred to are from this site. Go to other BB/AAS sites and read up there as well. Yes it is a lot of information but my saying is if you want to play doctor with a syringe you better learn to play doctor with the books first.

Hands down injectables are better for you then orals, and no injecting one self with steroids is not the samething morally or ethically as using heroin, morphine, or something else. The way you are looking at injections is all wrong, it is like you are saying "My brother is a drunk driver therefore I will not drive because it reminds me of him being drunk." Injections are just another way of administering a compound, what you chose to inject is another matter.


Jagdpanther

[vicious cycle]

everyone wants to flame the new guy and tell him he's an idiot but can we just cut through that and give me some good advice?

I appreciate your concerns maybe I should do a little more reading before beginning on this... I was kinda under the impression that I could just take some pills and get bigger so long as I ate right and lifted alot.

Gee I couldn't imagine why people would call someone an idiot.

Yeah bro. Maybe, just maybe (I don't want to hurt anyones feelings in this thread - I know how sensitive some of you sweethearts are) you should think about doing just a little more reading.

[testisbest]

Become familiar with the sterid profiles, the Testosterones are where one should start.

http://www.steroid.com/drugprof.php

after you are done reading, reread it again and refer to them often.


Then move on to here for a summary about the difference between SERMs and AIs:

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=94545

Then browse through the IMPROTANT stickys on the PCT Forum. Read the Stickys before looking at individual posts.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=77

Here is an educational forum made up of all stickys, these have been selected because they are useful. Please look through these.

http://forums.steroid.com/forumdisplay.php?f=12

All of the links I referred to are from this site. Go to other BB/AAS sites and read up there as well. Yes it is a lot of information but my saying is if you want to play doctor with a syringe you better learn to play doctor with the books first.

Hands down injectables are better for you then orals, and no injecting one self with steroids is not the samething morally or ethically as using heroin, morphine, or something else. The way you are looking at injections is all wrong, it is like you are saying "My brother is a drunk driver therefore I will not drive because it reminds me of him being drunk." Injections are just another way of administering a compound, what you chose to inject is another matter.


Jagdpanther

great post