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    First cycle.. Anavar

    I am thinking of doing my very first cycle now based on Anavar for only 4 weeks at 40 mg ED. ( To see how my body will react to AAS and coz of the fact that Anavar have the eleast side effects ).

    My questions are :

    1) Will I see good size gains from that cycle ?!!

    2) My PCT will be Clomid at 100 mg ED for 2 weeks then at 50 mg ED for another 2 weeks .. What do you think about it ?!

    3) Also, I am thinking of running some Proviron and Tribulus during the cycle and PCT to keep my sex drive ... Is this good ?!!

    Feel free to discuss what you're thinking of and any help will be really appreciated.

    Thank you guys !

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    as? well var isnt going to blow you up by any means but it will give you a lil lean mass at that mg and i mean a lil 4 weeks isnt verry long and var isnt liver toxic unless you take a crap load of it and isnt suppresive of your own test production. proviron is onther longer term user lil gains as well but hard ones id do this.

    1-8var 40mg ed
    1-8 proviron 75mg ed
    pct clomid 300/100/50/50(to be safe)

    if your diets right and you train hard wether cuting or bulking you will get some results but minimal ones id say 5-10lbs lean mass youl keep bout all that and a good boost in strenth as well.

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    Drop some fat and put on some mass

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    20% bf? i would save the var and diet down.. you ain't gonna see much especially with that high of bf

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    I know 20% is a lilttle high but I was thinking of using Anavar as a cutter to preserve my muscle and to put a little deal of extra mass on ..
    What do you think ?

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    I think var could help you preserve muscle if you drastically reduce your caloric intake and do cardio. Don't count on it to loose weight though. You NEED a huge adjustment with your eating habits and tons of cardio. Don't even focus on gaining muscle but var willl help preserve some of that.

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    Nah man if I were you i'd get that body fat down about 5%. get your diet in order. Check out the diet forums and post your diet. You've only been training 1 year. No type of AAS is good for you right now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrGetBig13
    Nah man if I were you i'd get that body fat down about 5%. get your diet in order. Check out the diet forums and post your diet. You've only been training 1 year. No type of AAS is good for you right now.
    I agree, just focus on diet and cardio and think about the AAS when you are under 15% Good luck...

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    Om guys.. I will check my diet first then when reaching 15% BF or less I will be looking into that cycle...

    I magine now that I am 15% BF and answer my questions lol

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    I believe var is best used for "finishing touches" ..if I thought you knew what you were doing,(diet/workouts) I would suggest testosterone during a cutter to preserve muscle.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Myka
    I believe var is best used for "finishing touches" ..if I thought you knew what you were doing,(diet/workouts) I would suggest testosterone during a cutter to preserve muscle.
    I know what you are talking about but If you got a look at post # 1 you'll see the causes I am going to pick anavar ( Sides issues ).

    Bumb for answering my questions at my first post...

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    I am brand new member here, so please excuse my interruption here...
    i am currently looking to test Anavar , but I could only get my hands on, as i alredy did, liquid anavar. i am in pretty good shape and not really lookingto gain any mass at the time, iam 6'3 242 12% pretty lean athlete.
    my pretty silly question is: is liquid anavar injectible or is it just drops that i swallow?

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    Quote Originally Posted by anabolicshark
    I am brand new member here, so please excuse my interruption here...
    i am currently looking to test Anavar , but I could only get my hands on, as i alredy did, liquid anavar. i am in pretty good shape and not really lookingto gain any mass at the time, iam 6'3 242 12% pretty lean athlete.
    my pretty silly question is: is liquid anavar injectible or is it just drops that i swallow?
    Welcome to the board. You're best off starting your own thread instead of jumping in...You'll get more responses as well.

    But to answer your question, it is NOT injectable. Just drink it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow
    I know what you are talking about but If you got a look at post # 1 you'll see the causes I am going to pick anavar ( Sides issues ).

    Bumb for answering my questions at my first post...
    I'll answer...But the fact remains that you aren't going to see anything with anavar at 20%.

    So other than that...
    40 mg ED is a little on the low side. I understand you want to be cautious, but you also want to see results as well.

    4 weeks is a little short IMO, as well. I would say at least 6 weeks. Besides, how much fat loss do you think you are going to be able to acomplish in 4 weeks?

    Your PCT is fine and I've never used proviron , so I'll leave that up to the others.

    Also, what is your height and weight in feet/inches and lbs. respectively?

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow
    I know 20% is a lilttle high but I was thinking of using Anavar as a cutter to preserve my muscle and to put a little deal of extra mass on ..
    What do you think ?
    anavar is not a cutting drug and neither is any other steroid . your cutter is diet, var is used while you are cutting up but var does not cut you up.

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    The profile on anavar say's it will cut you up i don't know about to that extreme though.

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    It states that you lose fat without exercising or changing your diet. Maybe the guy who wrote the profile didn't look that deep into it but that's what it say's in the profile and even compared it to a placbo

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    var does aid in fat loss but not to any extreme whatso ever...and 40mg of var for 4 weeks isnt going to do much at all...its good for hardening you up at the end of a cutting/precontest cycle. i really dont think your going to get the results u want being 20%.....i doubt you'd see much change at all until u figure out ur diet problems. but if u do decide to do it 40mg is a waste var isnt very toxic at all and can be run alot higher than 40mg ed. i think anthony roberts even said first time or not he wouldnt recomend a dose any less than 80mg ed and he'd actually run 100mg ed if he was going to use it. something to consider...

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    Yeah I heard that too! But i'm running it 50mg EOD lol but i'm on test prop and masteron and a shot of tren E

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfstud18
    Yeah I heard that too! But i'm running it 50mg EOD lol but i'm on test prop and masteron and a shot of tren E
    50mg eod is a waste to me as well....im not going to post my experience with var because i dont want to hear people tell me waht they dont know so if u wish to know how i've run var u can pm me

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    Hate to break it you guys, but a lot of the VAR is underdosed (from UG labs) or cut (from the powders via China). Next time you see VAR powder for under $10 be cautious. That is why some guys get great strength/fat-loss effects off of 40mg/d and others don't feel anything until 70mg/d+...food for thought...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdavis2007
    Hate to break it you guys, but a lot of the VAR is underdosed (from UG labs) or cut (from the powders via China). Next time you see VAR powder for under $10 be cautious. That is why some guys get great strength/fat-loss effects off of 40mg/d and others don't feel anything until 70mg/d+...food for thought...
    im curious as to how you know this...? if you have a good powder source u pay less than 10$ a gram and i doubt it to be "cut"

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    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWidow
    I am thinking of doing my very first cycle now based on Anavar for only 4 weeks at 40 mg ED. ( To see how my body will react to AAS and coz of the fact that Anavar have the eleast side effects ).

    My questions are :

    1) Will I see good size gains from that cycle ?!!
    no

    2) My PCT will be Clomid at 100 mg ED for 2 weeks then at 50 mg ED for another 2 weeks .. What do you think about it ?!
    fine cause your cycle is so basic

    3) Also, I am thinking of running some Proviron and Tribulus during the cycle and PCT to keep my sex drive ... Is this good ?!!
    you won't need it with your cycle

    Feel free to discuss what you're thinking of and any help will be really appreciated.

    Thank you guys !
    answered below your questions..

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    Quote Originally Posted by jdavis2007
    Hate to break it you guys, but a lot of the VAR is underdosed (from UG labs) or cut (from the powders via China). Next time you see VAR powder for under $10 be cautious. That is why some guys get great strength/fat-loss effects off of 40mg/d and others don't feel anything until 70mg/d+...food for thought...
    Glad you said something brah i have 25mg tab's that i got from a compound pharmacy Us human pharmaceuticals. I'm going to be running 50mg EOD with some other stuff

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfstud18
    Glad you said something brah i have 25mg tab's that i got from a compound pharmacy Us human pharmaceuticals. I'm going to be running 50mg EOD with some other stuff
    Has to be run ED not EOD. Look at its half-life.

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    I'm using winnny the day i'm not running the anavar though is that chill?

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    They both have a 8 hr range

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    Quote Originally Posted by getdowntoit
    anavar is not a cutting drug and neither is any other steroid. your cutter is diet, var is used while you are cutting up but var does not cut you up.
    i guess u never used tren before. it will change ur body like nothing else will without exercise.

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    I never heard that lol nice i have some tren e but afraid to use it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Surfstud18
    They both have a 8 hr range
    There's your answer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by horse choker
    i guess u never used tren before. it will change ur body like nothing else will without exercise.
    the dog in your avatar is AMAZING!

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