Need Expert help with third cycle.

[jsklx500]

Ok, my first two cycles were identical. 500mg of sustanon and 400mg of deca per week for 10 weeks. I gained about 30 pounds each time but had lots of bloating in my neck and face with some acne at the end of the cycles. I used clomid for PCT the first time and HCG with better results the second time. Its been about two years now since my last cycle and I've lost most of my gains so Im gonna do my third cycle. Right now I have 14 amps of sustanon 250 and 1360mgs of dbol tabs. I would like to use what I already have to save money but would like to know what to add to this for the best gains without the bloating.

[Jefferey]

Ok, my first two cycles were identical. 500mg of sustanon and 400mg of deca per week for 10 weeks. I gained about 30 pounds each time but had lots of bloating in my neck and face with some acne at the end of the cycles. I used clomid for PCT the first time and HCG with better results the second time. Its been about two years now since my last cycle and I've lost most of my gains so Im gonna do my third cycle. Right now I have 14 amps of sustanon 250 and 1360mgs of dbol tabs. I would like to use what I already have to save money but would like to know what to add to this for the best gains without the bloating.

You think Deca bloated you, wait until you get into the d-bol.

Sus 500mgs / EW
D-bol 30 mgs / ED

This is all your going to need since you have been off 2 yrs..Hell the sus alone would work for you and a lot less bloating......

[jsklx500]

Yeah, I failed to mention that I used dbol last time for the first 4 weeks with no noticeable increase in bloating compared to the previous cycle without it. I'm only guessing the deca was causing the bloating. Would equipoise make my next cycle better?

[taiboxa]

You think Deca bloated you, wait until you get into the d-bol.

Sus 500mgs / EW
D-bol 30 mgs / ED

This is all your going to need since you have been off 2 yrs..Hell the sus alone would work for you and a lot less bloating......

lol bring on the moonface!


jsklx500- eq would most likely NOT make ur next cycle better.. wat will is proper diet and proper pct... both ur previou pct protocols were pure shit.. goto the education/pct forums and read up

[jsklx500]

Not exactly the kind of help I was looking for. This is a Q and A forum right?

[taiboxa]

Not exactly the kind of help I was looking for. This is a Q and A forum right?

well im glad u are aware of your surroundings... as apparently i am not.
firstly you want advice.. we give advice, but giving advice for extended periods of time to redundent questions or a question w/o proper backing to compose a save and effective answer gets old.

as for ur question concerning EQ- no IT PROBABLY WONT make your cycle better at all... especially since u have ran deca. EQ is NOTHING compared to deca in any way except that EQ will dry you out and thats the only thing it will do.

so for ur previous comment about NOT THE HELP ur looking for? wat do you want.. u want me to say here take tren it will make ur next cycle better infact i already ordered it for u and maild it to your doorstep!

both of ur previous PCT protocols were less than even partially IDEAL and imo they would be a primary concern if i was going to run another cycle, so theres another THING you can do to fix ur upcomming cycle and MAKE IT BETTER.

Since diet is the primary factor in dictating wat one is able to do w/ their body composition and YES DIET IS OVER 80% of it when it comes to GAINING LBM and Dropping bodyfat... so of course im going to comment on one's eating habbits.. you dont like that answer.. you came to the wrong board because anyone here who has hung around awhile will be able to state DIET first aas later.

also i would like to add you could of atleast done enough research to see many of the people who have signatures stating IF YOU WANT HELP give us ur stats/training history and cycle history .. you gave me 1/3rd of that.. and yet i gave u a complete answer...i feel u came outta this a winner w/quite an intellectual profit.. and yeah i know every user name has a profile and can fill it out so we kan read about you .. but VERY FEW OF THEM are up to date... so i dont make a habbit of going outa my way to click on someones name to see wat they WERE.

and if you dont like this answer then we have a womens fitness forum just around the corner.. go make ur self at home, and keep the snide remarks to your self.

[Drummerboy]

we really have to rethink the structure of these forums.... a newbie section with all these crazy redundant q's should work well... its almost to the point where i dont want to answer any more.

[jsklx500]

Damn George its been along time since I visited this site and what do I see? You being an asshole. Let me remind you AGAIN that this is the Q&A section. The QUESTION was about GEAR not diet. When I read your response the first thing that came to my mind was "what a rude ass****er"! Think of this George, what if you asked your mechanic what fuel additives would give you the most mpg in your car and he responded by telling you to monitor your tire pressure. While this may be valuable information to have in your quest for fuel efficiency its does not answer your simple question. Then the mechanic belittles you in front of a group of your peers for not asking the question he wanted you to ask. You are that mechanic George. If you dont like answering questions then stay out of the Q&A section since you obviously know everything already. For those of us who dont know it all this is where we come. Oh, and this shits aimed at you too drummerboy.

[bmit]

If you don't want the bloating run an AI like Arimidex (.25 - .5mg ed should work). Since it seems you aren't prone to gyno you won't need to mess with letro.

[jsklx500]

Thanks bmit, good answer. I bought some Arimidex awhile back but havent used it yet. You say .25 to .5mg ed. what would be the factors to determine whether I take .25 or .5 mgs ed?