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    What would yield more size gains?

    Sust. 250 at 1000mg a wk or Test Prop at 1000mg a wk?

    I know everyone responds differently but, just tell me which one you think will give you more size. Thanks

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    I would say prop because of the ester

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    the ester is lighter so there is more test and less ester but you might retain more water with the sust. so might have more weight with the sust.

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    thanks, I dont count water weight. Im lookin to know which one would give more actual muscle size. The stuff u keep after cycle

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    Quote Originally Posted by iggyh28
    the ester is lighter so there is more test and less ester but you might retain more water with the sust. so might have more weight with the sust.
    Sounds right.

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    Your overall peak test blood level will peak higher on the sust, but the prop will hit faster. Your bloat will be greater on the sust, so will the gains. The sust cycle will "last" a lot longer as it takes a couple weeks to run out of your system, where the prop runs out in a couple days. Your choice.

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    guess its the Sus because of the components which gives u more water retention , with Prop the gain u gonna have is much quality and leaner than what u may gain on Sus ..

    i used to kick ma cycles with Prop and honestly never used the Sus till ma next cycle which am staking Sus in it. actually didnt know any one who ran a full cycle ( 8 - 12 wks or more and it depends on what u stack it with ) with Prop and b/c of the pain and soreness they had when shooting Prop in frequently ( ED ) as it should be or ( EOD ) b/c of the ester of Prop

    correct me guys if im wrong
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    why do U need 1000 mg a week?
    That much will start causing estrogin build up in you're pecks
    U should lower the dose to maybe 750mg a week thats a shot of sust eod
    or depending on the prop 4 shots a week...
    Good luck and keep alot of armidex on hand.

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    well i would use letro and proviron so things shouldn't get out of hand w/ gyno.
    But I just want as much muscle size as quick as possible. Like if I ran the Sust so it ended on week 12 and I ran test prop for 12 weeks which would make me bigger? ( I know everyone is diff)

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddragon4954
    well i would use letro and proviron so things shouldn't get out of hand w/ gyno.
    But I just want as much muscle size as quick as possible. Like if I ran the Sust so it ended on week 12 and I ran test prop for 12 weeks which would make me bigger? ( I know everyone is diff)

    bro did u ever ran Prop before ? i doubt any one did a 12 wks cycle with prop even when u cut it with B12 or any thing else
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    Quote Originally Posted by reddragon4954
    Sust. 250 at 1000mg a wk or Test Prop at 1000mg a wk?

    I know everyone responds differently but, just tell me which one you think will give you more size. Thanks
    is there a reason your considering these high dosages as opposed to a more moderate one?

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    Your joking right?
    test compared to test.. which is going to give me more gains?

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    YES! Someone said it!

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    Sustanon

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    Quote Originally Posted by D-Money
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    how? u get more RAW test from the propinate so inturn he is getting like 15% more test

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    i think i will go w/ the sust. and the last 18 days when im waiting for the sust to leave my system I will take the prop at everyday and see what happens until I can begin the PCT

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    bro did u ever ran Prop before ? i doubt any one did a 12 wks cycle with prop even when u cut it with B12 or any thing else
    I ran it for 17 weeks. Not everyone hurts on prop or doesn't like needles.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    I ran it for 17 weeks. Not everyone hurts on prop or doesn't like needles.
    guess no one likes needles as i do , but when im on Prop it takes 7 days to the swelling it coses to go , so i shoot in diff 6 spots , also the soreness it cause dosnt worth much to take it unless u think of ganing pretty lean

    good for u if u can shoot Prop for that long without symptoms , wish if i can
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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    guess no one likes needles as i do , but when im on Prop it takes 7 days to the swelling it coses to go , so i shoot in diff 6 spots , and soreness it cause dosnt worth much to take it , guess thats for me

    good for u if u can shoot Prop for that long without symptoms , wish if i can
    Well a lot will depend on who makes the prop as well. I've shot some prop that I cringe at just by seeing it. I have some from 2 years ago that I won't run if you paid me. 4 of the vials are 200mg/ml too!! Nastiest chinese crap I ever came across. The UGL I run now is smooth as butter. 2.5cc in a delt has barely any sting at all. It's one of the first I can actually shoot my biceps with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1buffsob
    Well a lot will depend on who makes the prop as well. I've shot some prop that I cringe at just by seeing it. I have some from 2 years ago that I won't run if you paid me. 4 of the vials are 200mg/ml too!! Nastiest chinese crap I ever came across. The UGL I run now is smooth as butter. 2.5cc in a delt has barely any sting at all. It's one of the first I can actually shoot my biceps with.
    i ran Prop several tiems to kick start ma cycle , and had a plan like running Prop with Sus or Omnadern to enhance the Prop effects , dont know if it could be done like that !!

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddragon4954
    i think i will go w/ the sust. and the last 18 days when im waiting for the sust to leave my system I will take the prop at everyday and see what happens until I can begin the PCT
    It would make more sense to run the prop in the beginning to get your test levels up as fast as possible. I know sust has a little prop but it's minimal and sust takes 3-4 weeks to really kick in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steroider
    bro did u ever ran Prop before ? i doubt any one did a 12 wks cycle with prop even when u cut it with B12 or any thing else
    ive done a 16 week cycle with prop and NPP... ED injections

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    Quote Originally Posted by reddragon4954
    Sust. 250 at 1000mg a wk or Test Prop at 1000mg a wk?

    I know everyone responds differently but, just tell me which one you think will give you more size. Thanks

    I've done both sust and prop (im currently running prop) I am seeing awesome results with prop compared to sust, the sust didn't kick in until week 6 or 7 the test prop kicked in within a week and im loving the results so far and im gaining alot of mass, so in my opinion go with prop

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    if you frontload the sust...it should be almost the same, although technically you are getting more "actual" test with the prop, but with me, the prop seems to cut me up more than the sust, sust gives more water retention, but overall muscle, shoudlnt be much of a difference at all

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    I would have my bets on the Sust. It's a known bulker like Deca .

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