FINALLY- Summer cycle ready to be started in 1 week

[JMan06]

Week 1-4 Tbol @40mg/ed
Week 1-8 Prop @75mg/ed
Week 1-8 Npp @75mg/ed
Week 1-12 Proviron @50mg/ed
Week 12-16 Nolvadex @40mg/ed for 2 weeks then 20mg/ed
Week 12-16 Aromasin (probably will not use due to proviron)

So there it is. My goals are to add some good lean muscle for summer without looking bloated at all and maybe loose a % or 2 of bodyfat. Will be adjusting diet.

What do you guys think of my doses?

[aadrenaline]

ive never tryed tbol do you like it i think i have some bd laying around maybe ill use it

[JMan06]

Im thinking the test dose is low? My last 2 cycles i used enanthate at 500mg/week. What do you think?

[JMan06]

ive never tryed tbol do you like it i think i have some bd laying around maybe ill use it

Dont know yet ill let you know in 5 weeks if i like it or not haha

[aadrenaline]

ive only ran this one cycle of sust, winny, t3 so i dont know im thinking of running prop/tren and somthing else maybe ill add tbol

[SuperLift]

Week 1-4 Tbol @40mg/ed
Week 1-8 Prop @75mg/ed
Week 1-8 Npp @75mg/ed
Week 1-12 Proviron @50mg/ed
Week 12-16 Nolvadex @40mg/ed for 2 weeks then 20mg/ed
Week 12-16 Aromasin (probably will not use due to proviron)

So there it is. My goals are to add some good lean muscle for summer without looking bloated at all and maybe loose a % or 2 of bodyfat. Will be adjusting diet.

What do you guys think of my doses?

Well that would be kind of hard to tell you considering no one knows what kind of history you have with anabolics. If it is your second or third cycle then I would say that your doses are good. Ill be anxious to hear about your results.. I want to run something similar for my next cycle.

[Titleist]

Wouldn't hurt to up the Test to 100mg ED but I think you will see good enough strength/size gains off of the NPP.

[SuperLift]

Im thinking the test dose is low? My last 2 cycles i used enanthate at 500mg/week. What do you think?

Oh my fault, I see you already posted it. If you got good gains off your last cycle then I dont see a reason to change it up. Why not save money.

[bmuhtneerg]

I would suggest adding the nolva in at the end of week 8. you're not starting the nolva till 4 weeks after your prop shot. I've heard of people using proviron for pct and I myself have used it but definetly not as a stand alone. If your dead set on it go ahead but I would add the nolva in 3 days after your last prop shot. But that's just me. Other than that looks good.

[Hellmaskbanned]

Week 1-4 Tbol @40mg/ed
Week 1-8 Prop @75mg/ed
Week 1-8 Npp @75mg/ed
Week 1-12 Proviron @50mg/ed
Week 12-16 Nolvadex @40mg/ed for 2 weeks then 20mg/ed
Week 12-16 Aromasin (probably will not use due to proviron)

So there it is. My goals are to add some good lean muscle for summer without looking bloated at all and maybe loose a % or 2 of bodyfat. Will be adjusting diet.

What do you guys think of my doses?

Better like needles.

Tbol dose is to low and to short of time. 50mgs for 6 weeks atleast. IMO you should run it all 8 weeks with prop/npp. I've ran TBol much longer with another oral so you'll be fine.

I would use Aromasin over Proviron for PCT anyday , if your choosing one.
Why are you starting PCT so late? Is that a Misprint?

[hugovsilva]

looks good.
I have to second Hellmask on the Tbol.
Start Nolva and proviron at week 9.

[MartyMcFly]

F the Tbol and get some var.

[JMan06]

Do you guys think I should drop proviron and use it only durring pct? I wanted to use it throughout the cycle to prevent estrogen sides and gyno as well as add some gains. I didnt like arimidex. So maybe forget using anything with the cycle and save it for the end?


EDITED CYCLE:

Week 1-6 Tbol @50mg/ed
Week 1-8 Prop @75mg/ed
Week 1-8 Npp @75mg/ed
Week 1-12 Proviron @50mg/ed
Week 9-12 Nolvadex @40mg/ed for 2 weeks then 20mg/ed
Week 9-12 Aromasin (probably will not use due to proviron)


* Think ill be fine without using proviron as an estrogen blocker durring cycle? No i wont be using anything else it was gonna be proviron, but i might save some $$ and use it at the end. On my last test e cycle, I had a little lump when i didnt use any sort of ai and it went away durring pct just fine. you couldnt see the lump only feel it.

[hardgainer1]

take the proviron, that is the jesus, I loved it when i took it, always had great wood and it is great for gyno prevention. I took it DURING my first cycle about 3 years ago instead of nolva didnt use it on PCT

[JMan06]

ok im gonna do the proviron week 1-12 like planed.

[taiboxa]

Your cycle is fine, your test dosage is fine... infact im damn certain if u even lowered it to 50mg ED you would have the same results since ur runnin a nor group.

let me know how ur pct goes w/ nolva+provirone w/o an AI .. im curious bout that.

hope all goes well for ya, goodluck

[JMan06]

Do you guys think it would be alright to run the proviron from week 6-12 instead of 1-12? Looking to save some coin lol.

[taiboxa]

Do you guys think it would be alright to run the proviron from week 6-12 instead of 1-12? Looking to save some coin lol.

yeah should be just fine.. not a whole hell of alot of aromatizing going on w/ the cycle u have layd out anyways

[JMan06]

what do you guys think about the npp and prop being run 8 weeks as opposed to 10? good idea?

[hugovsilva]

I would go for 10W for the prop and 8W for the npp.

[taiboxa]

what do you guys think about the npp and prop being run 8 weeks as opposed to 10? good idea?

i know people who run them in shorter cycles w/ great success

[JMan06]

i know people who run them in shorter cycles w/ great success

Even shorter then 8? Whens the kick in time for prop then? Must be within the first week eh?

[taiboxa]

Even shorter then 8? Whens the kick in time for prop then? Must be within the first week eh?

well if its outta your system in 4 days.. wat do you think?

[JMan06]

This is gonna be a lot of needles. Im guessing if i switched to eod id get possibly worse sides, acne especially? Plus the gains wouldnt be as good. hmm. The only thing is I can only inject glutes and delts...4 sites. well i guess the glutes you can do in 2 areas, so i should be alright.

Anyone know if a 5/8 length 25g syringe is enough for delts? sittin at around 13%bf now lol. Fatass

[JMan06]

GOAL - 10lbs LEAN MUSCLE. Without any water and possibly a drop in a % or 2 of BF.

Reasonable?

[Primalinstinct]

Do you guys think I should drop proviron and use it only durring pct? I wanted to use it throughout the cycle to prevent estrogen sides and gyno as well as add some gains. I didnt like arimidex. So maybe forget using anything with the cycle and save it for the end?


EDITED CYCLE:

Week 1-6 Tbol @50mg/ed
Week 1-8 Prop @75mg/ed
Week 1-8 Npp @75mg/ed
Week 1-12 Proviron @50mg/ed
Week 9-12 Nolvadex @40mg/ed for 2 weeks then 20mg/ed
Week 9-12 Aromasin (probably will not use due to proviron)


* Think ill be fine without using proviron as an estrogen blocker durring cycle? No i wont be using anything else it was gonna be proviron, but i might save some $$ and use it at the end. On my last test e cycle, I had a little lump when i didnt use any sort of ai and it went away durring pct just fine. you couldnt see the lump only feel it.

What didn't you like about your experience? I have a current cycle @ .25 ED.

[JMan06]

What didn't you like about your experience? I have a current cycle @ .25 ED.

Didnt do much man. still got puffy sore nips haha. went away tho.