Quick Question about..................

**ru-ga-ru** · 03-23-2007, 08:56 AM

I can't find any info on it so maybe some of you really smart guys can help me.

What is the diiference between Tren Ace. and Tren Enanthate .

Maybe a link or a past thread I can read about would help.

thanks

**fabry** · 03-23-2007, 09:03 AM

tren ace kicks in faster thant enanth due to its composition.
tren ace has to be inj ed or eod, enanth e3d (twice x wk)... and you
normally, combine test prop with tren a (for cutting) and test enanth or cyp with enanth (bulking cycles)...
but this is not a real/full explenation.. so, if you make a proper search, you will find LOTS of info about it....

good luck...

**ru-ga-ru** · 03-23-2007, 09:05 AM

Originally Posted by fabry

tren ace kicks in faster thant enanth due to its composition.
tren ace has to be inj ed or eod, enanth e3d (twice x wk)... and you
normally, combine test prop with tren a (for cutting) and test enanth or cyp with enanth (bulking cycles)...
but this is not a real/full explenation.. so, if you make a proper search, you will find LOTS of info about it....

good luck...

thanx.

what is EOD ????

**SMAN12b** · 03-23-2007, 09:05 AM

Only difference is the ESTER that is attached to the Tren .

Acetate = Fast Ester
Enanthate + longer, slower release ester

If you have never used Tren before, it is suggested that you start off with Tren ACE as it will be out of your system in days if you have bad side effects since tren is known for some of the harshest of sides.
Whereas if you use the longer ester Enanthate, and have bad sides, it will be with your for weeks.

**SMAN12b** · 03-23-2007, 09:07 AM

ED= Everyday injections

EOD= Every Other Day injections

Either ester can be used for cutting or bulking. I am doing a Heavy Bulk right now using Test E and Tren A

**ru-ga-ru** · 03-23-2007, 09:09 AM

Make perfect sense. I just could not find anything on the Enanthate version.

Only the ACE version. But it all make sense. Thanks

**ru-ga-ru** · 03-23-2007, 09:13 AM

I was about to do a cycle with the Tren E. + cyp.

then around the end of May my training partner is going to do this:

( i was also thinking of doing the same )

Weeks

1-6 Win. 50
1-6 Tren. 75
1-6 Cytomel 50
1-8 Propionate 50
1-8 Pregnyl ( HCG )
1-10 Clen
1-10 Arimidex
8 40mg Nolva / 100mg Clomid
9 30mg Nolva/ 50mg Clomid
10 20mg Nolva / 50mg Clomid

**Manpretty** · 03-23-2007, 09:15 AM

WOW........you might wanna rethink

**Manpretty** · 03-23-2007, 09:16 AM

anwser all questions in sman sig......then MAYBE we can help you out

**ru-ga-ru** · 03-23-2007, 09:20 AM

Originally Posted by Manpretty

WOW........you might wanna rethink

well for one....I can't pay for that right now anyway. lol.

But my partner is F-in huge and he has been in BB for about 8 years and does very well in local competitions

**Manpretty** · 03-23-2007, 09:23 AM

post all you stats please
it will help us help you

**ru-ga-ru** · 03-23-2007, 09:40 AM

AGE= 28
HEIGHT= 5' 10''
WEIGHT= 213 lbs
BF% = 18%
DIET= Moderate ( 2X Muscle milk shakes[1/ morning : 1/after workout]

Breakfast= Oatmeal or Grits or 2 wheat bagels.
9:00am = shake + banana
lunch = ( this is the hard part " i am in outside sales and bring customers to eat out everyday. So I eat a grilled chicken salad or something close to it'' )
3:00pm = because i am on the road, normally mix nuts, granola bar or work out/ meal replacement bar
5:00pm = protein shake after work out
Dinner = i always keep it healthy. I don't eat candy or sweets.

TRAINING= mainly a power workout. Heavy weight 12 , 10 , 8 , 6 reps type thing. 5 - 6 days a week. I about to start MMA again. So that will be my cardio.
PREVIOUS CYCLES = All bulking one. Mainly test , tren , d-biol , prop , cyp, etc.
GOALS= to get down to 195lbs and under 10% bf
PCT KNOWLEDGE = slim to none

if you need more info just ask

**SMAN12b** · 03-23-2007, 10:56 AM

Breakfast= Oatmeal or Grits or 2 wheat bagels. Where is your protein here???
9:00am = shake + banana
lunch = ( this is the hard part " i am in outside sales and bring customers to eat out everyday. So I eat a grilled chicken salad or something close to it'' )
3:00pm = because i am on the road, normally mix nuts, granola bar or work out/ meal replacement bar Again, NO PROTEIN !!!
5:00pm = protein shake after work out
Dinner = i always keep it healthy. I don't eat candy or sweets.

OK, no offense or flame intended, but you will NOT grow off this diet, it sucks !!!

you need more macros from WHOLE foods, not from shakes or meal replacement bars! You need Protein in EVERY meal,

diet needs a little work

**taiboxa** · 03-23-2007, 11:07 AM

wow lol worst diet i have seen in a long time on here.. and i have seen some doozies..

**ru-ga-ru** · 03-23-2007, 01:07 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

OK, no offense or flame intended, but you will NOT grow off this diet, it sucks !!!

you need more macros from WHOLE foods, not from shakes or meal replacement bars! You need Protein in EVERY meal,

diet needs a little work

I appreciate the info, really. I will make adjustments to my diet effective now.

THanks again