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03-24-2007, 12:14 PM #12/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Tren cough is no joke! OMG! That SUCKED!
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03-24-2007, 12:15 PM #2
Gota watch out 4that
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03-24-2007, 12:18 PM #3
It's a near death experience!
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03-24-2007, 12:20 PM #4Anabolic Member
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did u get that funny tase in ur mouth and all that?? and how soon after injection did it come on? thats one thing im really really dreading in my upcoming cycle...
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03-24-2007, 12:25 PM #5Banned
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are you sure you didnt nic a vein...........
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03-24-2007, 12:30 PM #6
yeah i thought these symptoms were normal for nicking a vein when u inject anything. from what i heard tren cough can happen any time, not just when u inject
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03-24-2007, 12:32 PM #7Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by Snrfmaster
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03-24-2007, 12:34 PM #82/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Originally Posted by Haro3
came literally within seconds. I have a stomach ache too now but, I did last night anyway so.........
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03-24-2007, 02:11 PM #9Member
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Im on tren now and I dont think the cough comes from an air bubble but from the tren ace (even a little) entering a vein.
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03-24-2007, 02:41 PM #102/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Yea the vein is more likely, I was just saying everything that happened. I dont think anything else causes that kind of cough.
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03-24-2007, 03:38 PM #11Anabolic Member
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I thought they were one in the same?
Tren just happens to be a particularly obnoxious compound to clear via your lungs.
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03-24-2007, 03:42 PM #12
Yeah, thats weird, Im running tren on my next cycle so Ive never experienced it myself but I used to inject my rommate all the time, he was running tren one cycle and literaly as soon as i was done the injection he started cou***ng like a mother****, he was kinda scared he didnt even know about tren cough, so I told him he didnt even believe me at first, lol, dumbass.
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03-24-2007, 04:26 PM #132/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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I was pretty scared too, I admit. But I thought to myself "I know people haev posted saying this happened to them too, and they just said to relax and giev it a few minutes....."
One of those times when what you learn here comes in real handy. I mean I might have ran next door and told my buddy to call 911 had I not heard of this before. Then again, I probly wouldn't be using steroids if I had never haev found this place either lol.
it was really a shitty feeling though for sure, like I was dying.
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03-24-2007, 04:39 PM #14
i have ever only exp tren cough directly after injection,and this dosent happen after every inject..........which leads me to beleive it is when you nick a vein.................
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03-24-2007, 05:59 PM #15Junior Member
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Im running tren -ace at 120mg eod and I have that dam cough all day and specially at night when Im lying down to go to sleep, it sucks but at least you know your tren is real.
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03-24-2007, 08:15 PM #162/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Another thing that sucks is at night, I get realy anxious and can't sleep well. I guess that is "tren insomnia" ?
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03-24-2007, 09:12 PM #17
I never got the tren cough but I would alwasy start breathing what smelled like acetone for a few minutes afterwards and for only a few minutes.
And then i would wake up at all hours of the night sweating my ass off.
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03-24-2007, 11:28 PM #18
That would be awfully scary for someone who doesn't know what's going on. Could also prove dangerous to someone with an underlying heart condition.
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03-24-2007, 11:38 PM #19
tren cough hits when the shit hits your heart. sweat, short of breath, and cough... its not a good thing, despite the fact that people play it off as harmless... any time your heart works like that and you get that feeling... ever see someone having a heart attack!!???? **cough cough***
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03-24-2007, 11:41 PM #202/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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I thought you were supposed to cough to help yourself if you have a heart attack ?
What do you think it is then Drummerboy? Can you elaborate a little more please?
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03-25-2007, 09:02 AM #21Anabolic Member
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Its your lungs trying to clear the oil...Not part of your heart dying.
Hence why it starts like an asthma attack...tightness (in throat), pain, cou***ng...
Yes, it can be very bad (deadly) when gobules of oil go directly to the heart, but I don't think that's what you're feeling.
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03-25-2007, 12:54 PM #22New Member
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are you sure it was the tren and not the air bubble forming in your blood after you hit a vein lets say...?like a blood clot ... you cant die from a little amount of air but you sure feel like you are...
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03-25-2007, 01:14 PM #23Originally Posted by Haro3
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03-25-2007, 01:54 PM #24
I have it after my shot but sometimes I can feel it coming on mid-shot which really sucks as you have to get the rest of your gear in quicker than you would usually and have to withdraw the pin quickly.
Never a nice experience but if you are pre-warned at least you know whats happening and can relax knowing that you will get through it within a few minutes
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03-25-2007, 02:51 PM #25Banned
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Originally Posted by BigGuns101
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03-25-2007, 07:43 PM #26
can't all this be avoided if you just aspirate before injecting to see if you've hit a vein?
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03-26-2007, 02:19 AM #27Anabolic Member
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Here is my experience with the dreaded "tren cough"....
If or when it hits you, it's likely to hit you during injection as you nick a vein and some tren directly hits the blood stream.
You will at first feel an ovewhelming sensation overcome your body in an instant which will be followed be the extreme taste of the tren in your mouth...at this point you better back the needle out, because next the chest tightens up, you break out in an instant hot flash and slight sweat...then as quickly as all the aforementioned occur, you will begin to cough uncontrollably for the next several minutes which will seem like an eternity.
It will feel like you can't breath...you're thinking you're going to die or you're "checking out".
Every attempt to breath results in a cou***ng fit...don't panic, it will subside....
Then just as soon as it hit you, it is gone and you begin to feel like your going to live afterall.
This, in my experience, is what has occurred to me the two times I've ever experienced the dreaded "tren cough".
Just be patient when you inject, be absolutley sure to aspirate before injection, and inject very slowly. All while holding the pin as steady as possible....
I have found this method to really reduce the chances of the cough hitting me again...*knocking on wood*
Just be sure to get the pin out before it hits you....the first cough I experienced was mid-injection and I was so worried about what was all happening to me that I forgot about the pin in my ass....my wife said the syringe was uncontrollably bouncing all over the place as I went through my cou***ng fit...she thought it was funny at first until she realized something wasn't right...then she was about as worried as I was...but it passed and now when we look back on it, we get a good laugh from the experience.
It left a nice welt on my ass too from that pin bouncing all over the place....
I guess you will never know exactly how it's going to treat you until it happens to you.
This is how it happened to me...hope this helps to any of you that never experienced this before and what to expect, before you panic and think your going to die, like I did the first time it hit me.
Just try to remain calm, don't panic, and try to keep the breathing under control....it will pass, trust me.
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Now here is the real truth on the dreaded "Tren Cough" from a scientific point-of-view....all thanks to PJ:
Tren causes a spike in prostaglandin metabolism once injected. So what are prostaglandins?
Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate (Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways compete with one another to form prostaglandins (as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E, and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made.
Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation.
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.
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To those above that think "tren cough" has anything to do with the heart are wrong...it is a pulmonary reaction, not a cardio reaction.
As to the one guy above that claims that the cough plagues him day & night, you need to go see a doc...get your lungs checked out. Sounds like you may have some kind of bronchial infection...it's not from the tren.
Good luck and be safe guys,
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03-26-2007, 02:21 AM #28Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by IAMCDN
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03-26-2007, 07:57 AM #29
FVCK MAN!!!!! This thread makes me not want to run tren now. But I will anyway.
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03-26-2007, 10:12 AM #302/3 Deca 1/3 Test
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Good post sharp.
I never got the taste in my mouth though, weird.
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03-26-2007, 11:08 AM #31
this has been posted here for some time i just cant find it . I posted this at a different board and just recopied it here .
you are right X this is from B.B by Pheedno
Tren cough and fat burning explained by Pheedno
Tren- Fat burning and "fina cough" both from prostaglandin metabolization Posted on AR & IBB as well-
It's been widely disussed of Trens fat burning properties through rises in IGF and Prostaglandins. While IGF is a fairly well known substance in the bodybuilding world today, prostaglandins are fairly unknown in terms of formation and roles in the body.
So below, a brief dicription of prostoglandins and their role in fat burning, "fina cough", and why a person going through Tren administration can experience it's fat burning effects without the dreaded "Cough"
The term prostaglandin comes from the word-Prostate. The first prostoglandins were first dicovered in semen about the mid 1930's and it was thought that prostaglandins were made from the prostate. Since this time, it has been dicovered that most prostaglandins are not even constructed in the prostate.
Prostaglandins are made by two different pathways(Cyclooxygenase and Lipoxygenase), and considering prostaglandins are a group of about 20 lipid cells, they have contrary function; responsible for stimulating as well as alleviating inflammation(Inflammation stimulation is the rapid metabolism of them expelled through the bronchials), regulate blood flow to particular organs, control ion transport across membranes, modulate synaptic transmission, induce sleep, mediate lipid release, and regulate metabolism is various tissue.
Prostaglandins are synthesized from arachidonate(Lipoxygenase which catalyze the dioxygenation of polyunsaturated fatty acids) in the cell membrane by the action of phospholipase A2. Cyclooxygenase and lipoxygenase pathways, compete with one another to form prostaglandins(as well as thromboxane or leukotriene-leukotriene being a bronchial stimulator),
In the cyclooxygenase pathway, the prostaglandins D, E and F plus thromboxane and prostacyclin are made. Thromboxanes are made in platelets and cause constriction of vascular smooth muscle and platelet aggregation
Leukotrienes are made in leukocytes and macrophages via the lipoxygenase pathway. They are potent constrictors of the bronchial airways. They are also important in inflammation and hypersensitivity reactions as they increase vascular permeability.
Being that prostaglandins from either pathway, are still fatty acids of a group, they mediate lipid release and controll tissue metabolization, so fat burning is a luxerry of either pathway of formation. It's the pathway from which they are constructed that dictates "fina cough". As prostaglandins made from the Cyclooxygenase pathway dictate muscle constriction and platlet aggregation, and the Lipoxygenase pathway dictates bronchial constriction(the main form of expulsion)
Refs:
Cackatoo Press
Columbia Encyclopedia 6th Edition
Science Daily Magazine
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03-26-2007, 04:35 PM #32Anabolic Member
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^^ Another good addition to help explain the "tren cough"...
Thanks cj1capp.
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03-26-2007, 04:39 PM #33
Im on my 3rd week of test/tren and havent experienced the "cough" yet. I do sweat a bit more than normal though. Even just walking around at work.
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03-26-2007, 04:44 PM #34Anabolic Member
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Originally Posted by SuperLift
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03-26-2007, 10:04 PM #35
tren is definitely nuthin to f**k with. the first time i got the cough ,i like everyone else thats had it, thought i was goin to die. i was over my bathroom sink cou***ng my a$$ off. the front of my shirt was soaked from my eyes watering so bad. my face was as red as a cherry and it lasted for about 2 and a half minutes.
i noticed the other 2 times i got the cough that it was becuz i was injecting to fast. so inject about half the speed you do with anything else and you cgreatly reduce the risk of "tren cough"
if at all possible have someone else inject you with tren. me personally, i had my girlfriend who is a nurse inject me and between her doin it slow and keepin the needle steady i never got the cough again
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03-29-2007, 12:13 AM #36Junior Member
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ive been taking tren now for 12 days with no cough. i dont sweat TOO much when i sleep. i just use a sheet or nothing and usually sleep naked. but when im working out i cant stop dripping everywhere. when i do cardio i am covered in sweat from head to toe so bad that i could litterally ring it out of my clothes. i always aspirate and try to hold the needle as still as possible....hope this never happens to me. ive watched it happed to a friend and he was cou***ng so bad he fell to the ground and was red as can be with water flowing from his eyes, only lasted about a minute though. pretty crazy though
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03-29-2007, 03:55 AM #37Anabolic Member
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Trensomnia is a real thorn in my ass!
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03-29-2007, 02:39 PM #38Junior Member
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So my question is, does tren cough only occur with Ace or is it with Enth as well?
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03-30-2007, 03:36 PM #39
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03-30-2007, 04:52 PM #40
too hardcore for me! ill stick with test,deca ,and winny
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