My 2nd cycle Supertest 450 (Critique)

[Adam F]

Hi,

This will be my second cycle. First cycle 12= weeks Advar 250 stacked with Supertest 250. Gains 25-30 pounds. No PCT. (Very Dumb) Side affects= Low Thyroid in blood test. Solution= 0.75 Mg of Syhthroid Daily.

Stats: Current:
Age 27
5"10 238 pounds.
Bodyfat 27%
Years lifiting 4 years age 23-27 on and off.
Approx 3 years with 1 year on and off; offtime


2nd Cycle: Supertest 450 12/weeks
Will wait until May 07 To do Cycle.

Supertest 450 Info:
1200mg per week/(3.5*450) = .75cc/shot

32 mg per ml of testosterone acetate
147 mg per ml of testosterone decanoate
73 mg per ml of testosterone propionate
73 mg per ml of testosterone phenylpropionate
125 mg per ml of testosterone cypionate


Run Letro Before Cycle
2.5 Mg per day/ 5 days
1.25 Mg per day/ 9 days
( Then Begin Cycle)

PCT: Clomid Start 1 week after cycle
100MG/10 days
50MG/10 days

I am going for the Bulk Look. Truthfully I dont care about the 6 pack look. I powerlifting in my training. I do use the total Gym 2 times a week. (For me it helps on pumps, and works out more muscle groups) High Resistance -Low Reps.

Workout: 5 times a week/ 2 hours a day
(Depends on how body feels)

My job is at a lumber mill I work 4 - 12 hours shifts. I sweat when I start work and until I get off work (Enough Unavoidable Cardio There)

Goal:
Decrease Bodyfat 15% before cycle
Drop weight to 210- 220 pounds
On cycle add 20 pounds of Muscle (230-240 Pounds)

Nutrition: Present-
3500 calories to achieve weight loss, and slight muscle gain

During Cycle:
6,500 Calories
4,000 Calories from foods
2,500 Calories from Protein shakes

Questions:
1. For my weight am I planning enought Letro, and Clomid?
2. Recommend dosage, if Gyno symptoms appear during Cycle for Letro?
3. Continue Use Of Synthroid after PCT?
4. Frontload on Supertest?
5. Recomended time for blood work after cycle?
6. How much Letro if possible can I use During cycle?


I decided on Supertest 450 because that is what I have. The pain factor is not a problem for me. Just need info Ratio: Bodyweight/MG'S for Letro and Clomid. Please no flames on the Superstest part. Yes their is better, but this is what I have.

Thanks for any useful suggestions!

[aadrenaline]

honestly id dump that supertest bs and just get a single estered test...and that weight is rediculous 450mg/ml ouchies and the amount of BA in that is disgusting.

[Adam F]

No problem for me. I have grapeseed oil I can always mix with my shot if needed so. All you did was not anwser my question. I have Supertest 450 and Will<-- be using it. Bottom line. I have better things to do then throw away money on something i paid for.

[MartyMcFly]

I would not shoot once a week. I would shoot EOD atleast. I would run letro .25/day on cycle. i would not frontload it it has a lot of short esters and you need frquent injections.

[NewVader]

27% bf?

I hope you are trying to cut not bulk, but from your diet it doesn't seem like it...

[Adam F]

I corrected the injection amounts that was a typo.

My BF is 27% now My Goal: 15% before cycle

Goal:
Decrease Bodyfat by 15% before cycle
Drop weight to 210- 220 pounds
On cycle add 20 pounds of Muscle (230-240 Pounds)

[Knoxston]

inj will be a pain in the ass literally

[Adam F]

lol this is 2 funny. Seems like people dont read threads very well. My questions have nothing to do with how painful the injections are. I am not worried I have oils to mix with. I know it has a High BA. I will deal with it

***Please Stop Posting About How Painful The Injection is***

***I Did Not Ask That Question On This Read***

[GFLEXXX]

I corrected the injection amounts that was a typo.

My BF is 27% now My Goal: 15% before cycle

Goal:
Decrease Bodyfat by 12% before cycle
Drop weight to 210- 220 pounds
On cycle add 20 pounds of Muscle (230-240 Pounds)

I think you'll be far below 210-220lbs if you want to lose that much body fat prior to your cycle. you want to lose 15% body fat (app. 36lbs) and if your not on any gear while dropping I would say you need closer to 40+ pounds of loss (down to 195-200lb range) to get to that body fat%...go for it though dawg, you'll prolly get more out of your cycle...

[Adam F]

Thanks I will be posting my results in dept including bloodwork after PCT.

[Adam F]

Thanks Marty And GFLEXXX. I truly appreciate your help!

Still have question on 1, 2, 3. And overall how does this cycle look for a 2nd timer?

[Adam F]

bumb for more helpful responses

[taiboxa]

ur pct is absurd i would never run clomid alone and infact i wouldnt bother with it period i would utilize a far more effective SERM and use aromatase or arimidex as my AI during PCT.

i personally think test is a very pathetic steroid and only good for boners.. once u go over 500-750mg/wk ur just acquiring more sides w/ less gains.. and since gains are diet dictated i would not be using over a gram let alone over 750mg/wk. if u want to make your cycle cost effective i would utilize a nor group or DHT and keep you test around 500mg/wk.

i would talk to ur doc bout the thyroid issue... as i would not have enough information to make a decision on that matter for you from this standpoint.

i would have blood work done 4 weeks after the long estered part of the test blend is outta your system so bout 4 weeks into pct.

i wold love to see your diet, not trying to be rude but i assure you its far below par. infact if your using shakes to acquire 25% of ur cal intake.. THERE IS SOMETHING VERY WRONG w/ it to begin with as food is far more anabolic and effective for attaining LBM than shakes are.

unless u have issues w/ gyno and i mean BIG issues.. i wouldnt even **** w/ letro unless ur running a nor group to stimulate progest recepters. i wouldnt use anything cept maybe arimidex.

and to recap.. i dont kare bout super test or any other test .. imo test is practically mandatory in almost all cycles but not EFFECTIVE. so i would truely look into getting your hands on a DHT or NOR group.

EDIT: i just realized shakes make up MORE THAN 25% of ur cals.. thats real bad

[Adam F]

Thank You for taking the time to look at this post. This is why I have no problem posting here. Your response is much appreciated. I will take your advice on 500-750mg/wk & PCT.

My Current diet is only 3,500 calories. Sad for a Powerlifter, but I am setting goals for myself to decrease my total Bodyfat %. My Current diet is all food. I plan on lifting with higher reps and lower weight, and possibly my calorie intake. MORE RESEARCH

My biggest hurdle is my job. 4 12/hour shifts 2 days and 2 night shifts. It is a very very fast paced job. Gonna be fun implementing a diet when i decide when I start my 2nd cycle. MORE RESEARCH!

I am slighty Gyno prone. I had a pea size lump on my first cycle that did go away hence the Letro before cycle. (Yep ur prob right on the overkill)

Back to the drawing board, but thats fine with me. I want to be safe as possible this go around. Thanks for your feedback; VERY much appreciated.

Ohh and dont worry I will be sure not to rely that much on shakes when I feel I am ready for my cycle