Update Cycle!!! Need Help Fast

**Carlito's Way 26** · 03-26-2007, 09:18 PM

From what i have read, the cycle i am about to do will not work without Test. Here is goes Deca / winny/ clen . I wannalook lean for the summer. Everything out there seems to recommend some kinda test due to libido. OK, i'm game! Which test is best and how much??? PCT ordered as well. Please point me in the right direction. If anyone can truly help me with this cycle, please do so.

Here are my stats:
33yrs old
186lbs.
5'6"
Goal:
195lbs. Lean and hardbody!!!

**SMAN12b** · 03-26-2007, 09:43 PM

OK well deca is more for bulking, but depending on your diet, you can effectivly cut with it.

I would save the clen for PCT to help solidify any gains and burn the last bit of BF off

You can get away with a minimal amount of Test just to ensure you won't be one of the unlucky ones stricken with deca dick 100-150 mgs/week would be plenty if you are worried about Test Sides.

I would run the test two weeks past the deca and run the winny the last 6 weeks and depending on what kind of test your run would be how I would decide when the 6 weeks for winny starts.
Example: If you are running Test E, then I would run winny for a TOTAL of 6 weeks, two of which are past the last test E shot so that PCT timing matches

Hope this helps

**Carlito's Way 26** · 03-26-2007, 10:05 PM

ok, can you lay my cycle out. Also don't know what kinda test i can get. Will have to check. Which should i try to get? would prefer to shoot once a week. Also what is supertest???? Will this be ok??? Thanks for your help. WBS!!!

**SMAN12b** · 03-26-2007, 11:02 PM

Originally Posted by Carlito's Way 26

ok, can you lay my cycle out. Also don't know what kinda test i can get. Will have to check. Which should i try to get? would prefer to shoot once a week. Also what is supertest???? Will this be ok??? Thanks for your help. WBS!!!

No i can't lay out a cycle for you , that is YOUR job!! I will help you tweek it, but I have no idea how long you want to run a cycle for , i don't know your previous cycles or doses etc,,,,,,

**Carlito's Way 26** · 03-26-2007, 11:12 PM

My bad, just been researching as much as possible. i ordered deca and win. Been reading that i need some test. I wanna look lean and hard for the summer, Have nolva and ordered letro. I have done a couple cycles of tren before. just looking for all the help i can get.

**SMAN12b** · 03-26-2007, 11:14 PM

ok, but your still not answering my questions

**Carlito's Way 26** · 03-26-2007, 11:19 PM

10 weeks. Plus PCT.

**SMAN12b** · 03-26-2007, 11:21 PM

weeks 1-10 dEca
weeks 1-12 Test E
weeks 9-14 winny

PCT starts day after last winny. and including your clen cycle during pct

**Carlito's Way 26** · 03-26-2007, 11:24 PM

Dosage???? what kinda results????

**SMAN12b** · 03-26-2007, 11:28 PM

Originally Posted by Carlito's Way 26

Dosage???? what kinda results????

look, i am tryin to help you, you didn't give me any doses from your other cycles I can't just pull this shit out my ass

YOU figure out what doses you want to run and let ME know and i will see if it is good

**Carlito's Way 26** · 03-26-2007, 11:30 PM

deca 300mg a week
winny 50 mg ed.
What if i can't get teste, what others???
Thanks for your help. Appreciate helping an old man.

**SMAN12b** · 03-26-2007, 11:32 PM

test Cyp
test E
Test Prop, but thats gonna hurt ED shot
I wouldnt' reccomend any multi ester tests

**SMAN12b** · 03-26-2007, 11:33 PM

you know you can gain 10 lbs and lose BF with just the right diet adn training right?? you really don't even need to use a cycle

**Carlito's Way 26** · 03-26-2007, 11:35 PM

Don't mean to be rude, put just point me in the right direction.

**SMAN12b** · 03-26-2007, 11:37 PM

Originally Posted by Carlito's Way 26

Don't mean to be rude, put just point me in the right direction.

I think i have done more than point you in the right direction......that was rude, the rest is up to you

**Carlito's Way 26** · 03-26-2007, 11:43 PM

Sorry, I have been working out for a long time. Tired of gaining and losing. My best gains were from my first tren only cycle. Just wanna achieve my goals. I appreciate your help and i am sorry for comming across incorrect. I apologize.

**darkzide** · 03-28-2007, 11:56 AM

Here is a good cutter

Weeks 1-4
Tren @ 500mg/wk (b/c of the long and short esters)
Weeks 1 - 10
EQ @ 600mg/wk
Weeks 1-10
Tren Prop@ 500mg/wk
Weeks 1 - 10
Winny @ 50mg/ed

Clen 2 weeks stints 3 times

**darkzide** · 03-28-2007, 12:02 PM

Another good one:

Test Prop 100 mg's EOD
Tren Ace 100 mg's EOD
Masterone 100 mg's EOD
Nolva on hand for during and after as we'll as clomid for PCT...
Also using 4ius' of GH 5/0n 2/ off
cycle will last 10 weeks...