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    i got a problem

    Cycle:
    wk1-16: Test C 600mg/wk
    wk1-15: Eq 750mg/wk
    nolva 10mg/ed

    i started out with 500mg/wk EQ and bumped it up to 750mg/wk at week 5

    im going on week 8 right and my sex drive is kinda messed up. about a week or 2 ago, i could tell something jus wasnt right. im havin trouble gettin it up and keepin it up. my loads are mad little and pathetic too. it's freaking me out. is it because im running Eq too high. i thought as long as i ran test with it i'd be fine tho. i have some cialis on hand and am gonna see if that helps...would droping the nolva help...i dont have puffy or sensative nips. i also heard proviron would help...any thoughts...im jus gonna stare at my avatar until the problem is solved
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    drop the nolva. How are the gains? This is my favorite cycle.

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    gains are pretty decent...this is a lean mass cycle for me...strength is definately way up and have gained about 10 pounds while staying lean. good pumps and increased vascularity especially in forearms...im jus gonna drop the nolva for now like u said...i only took it cause last cycle i took deca and got some sensitive and sore nips even with the 10mg nolva/ed. if they start gettin puffy i'll go back on the nolva.

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    I've ran that cycle 2x and I'll run it again in the fall. I always keep ameridex on hand and I'll run it at .25 ED here and there through out the cycle. Never had sore nips before so you might know better than me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by testisbest
    I've ran that cycle 2x and I'll run it again in the fall. I always keep ameridex on hand and I'll run it at .25 ED here and there through out the cycle. Never had sore nips before so you might know better than me.
    do u think it's the nolva causing the sexual sides tho?

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    yes, not having any estro or not enough will kill your sex drive and hinder your gains.

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    arite i'll see how it goes...hopefully things will start gettin better soon...now i got a whole sh*t load of nolva on hand.

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    My instinct would be that the high EQ is causing the sides. My school of thought is to run EQ 100mg/wk less than the test. Estrogen is necessary for proper sexual function so the Nolva could be causing you issues. You could start with dropping the nolva.

    My next cycle is going to be similar, but with less EQ:

    Wk 1-13 TEST E @ 600mg/wk
    Wk 1-12 EQ @ 400mg/wk

    I am going to preload the EQ (I know there are mixed thoughts on this, but whatever) and I will have enough Test to bump it to 750mg/wk if I feel like I need to.... 500mg/wk TEST was my first cycle and I gained 22 pounds so I do not think I want to bump it too high too fast.

    Good Luck.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BigJames
    My instinct would be that the high EQ is causing the sides. My school of thought is to run EQ 100mg/wk less than the test. Estrogen is necessary for proper sexual function so the Nolva could be causing you issues. You could start with dropping the nolva.

    My next cycle is going to be similar, but with less EQ:

    Wk 1-13 TEST E @ 600mg/wk
    Wk 1-12 EQ @ 400mg/wk

    I am going to preload the EQ (I know there are mixed thoughts on this, but whatever) and I will have enough Test to bump it to 750mg/wk if I feel like I need to.... 500mg/wk TEST was my first cycle and I gained 22 pounds so I do not think I want to bump it too high too fast.

    Good Luck.

    the only reason i bumped it up from 500 to 750 is because everyone i talk to says it needs to be run at at least 600mg to see gains...so i bought an extra bottle to bump it up...if droping the nolva and taking cialis doesnt help maybe i'll consider lowerin the eq back to 500...i got about 2 months left...jus hopin everything goes back to normal after PCT.

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    Last time I ran this cycle was testE @ 250 a week and eq @ 600 a week with no sides at all and about 18lbs before and after PCT. I wouldn't run test if I didn't have to, can't stand for my face to get bloated (girls down here are not crazy about that). I only run it for libido and lethargy issues and let the other, more powerfull AAS do what their supposed to.

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