sust or test e!!!

**islandjuice** · 03-31-2007, 12:12 PM

which would be a better compound for gains in lean mass and less water weight??? plan on stacking anadrol with sust, but can also get ahold of test e. just wondering which retents less water, cuz the drol will have plenty of that, and gains of the sust and test out of both which will stay on better. stats, 165 510, 2nd cycle, not sure on bodyft, im not a super hardcore bodybuilder, just a dude who loves to train and get bigger and bigger, input would be awsome.
thanks.

**MartyMcFly** · 03-31-2007, 12:30 PM

I think you are too small for AAS but Anadrol will put a lot of water on you and water/lean mass can be controlled with diet cardio and AI.

**TheDfromGC** · 03-31-2007, 12:31 PM

test=test, some people say shorter esters cut better but between those 2 theres not gonna be much of a difference, and for gaining lean muscle mass and less water weight anadrol wouldnt be the best choice. ur weight seems a bit low for being on 2nd cycle. natural gaining would probably be best idea

**Schmidty** · 03-31-2007, 12:34 PM

ur a little light to be doing cycle but your gona proly do it anyway so I would go with test-e unless u want to shoot ED or EOD with the sust

**islandjuice** · 03-31-2007, 12:50 PM

yeah the natural gaining and the bing to light i heard it all. dont get me wrong boys, its all good advice. just my 2nd cycle with a bombs, at my biggest i was 195, my cycles consisted of deca and test c was my first, 2nd was winni with test c, an my third was sust, and now its my second cycle with sust and stacking with a bombs. 165 is me givin er at the gym and im at my stnd still, was pumpojn cretine and protien between cycles, with proper pct, nolva.stopped gymin it up for awhile due to girlfriend and being sick. and also, how long does it take sust to kick in stacked with another compound, my first time it took for me personally like maybe a week and a half 2 weeks. same for test
E????

**ottomaddox** · 03-31-2007, 01:16 PM

Dude, Try importing your post into MS Word for a spelling and grammar check.
Your use of the English language is as poor as your judgment has been.

Okay, You did three cycles and lost all your gains, now you want to start all over again. What makes you think that this will be the magic cycle, and that you'll keep all your gains? I don't think you have the level of maturity that is needed to undertake what you have planned. You can't let something as meaningless as "Girl Friend" issues mess with your training regiment. Why don't you build your body correctly, by starting off with a good foundation? With out that I don't see how you will ever succeed with your goals.
Good luck,
CR
Research, research, research

**SMAN12b** · 03-31-2007, 01:18 PM

5'10" and only 165 after a cycle???????? HOW OLD ARE YOU???

You do not need steroids YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO EAT !!!!!!!!!

**Schmidty** · 03-31-2007, 01:31 PM

Not to flame him but he sounds like hes dead set on doing a cycle. Ifigure if hes not gona listen we may as well let him do a good cycle. hang on i gota go get a very good link 4u

**Schmidty** · 03-31-2007, 01:33 PM

I am very ant sust, i think u only neeed 1 ester or no ester at all but her u go. http://forums.steroid.com/showthread.php?t=524

**magic32** · 03-31-2007, 01:36 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

5'10" and only 165 after a cycle???????? HOW OLD ARE YOU???

You do not need steroids YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO EAT !!!!!!!!!

Yep, something is awry here.

AGE PLEASE!

And if you're of age, please post a typical day's diet.
Lastly, do you use PCT?

M.

**ottomaddox** · 03-31-2007, 01:45 PM

You must have not seen his other post. This is his Fourth cycle, and still at 165???

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

5'10" and only 165 after a cycle???????? HOW OLD ARE YOU???

You do not need steroids YOU NEED TO LEARN HOW TO EAT !!!!!!!!!

**Schmidty** · 03-31-2007, 01:48 PM

Originally Posted by magic32

Yep, something is awry here.

AGE PLEASE!

And if you're of age, please post a typical day's diet.
Lastly, do you use PCT?

M.

their are only 2 ways to losr that much after a cycle
1.Anorexia
2.No PCT
I cant think of anything else that would make u drop ALL that weight

**maxex** · 03-31-2007, 01:51 PM

Originally Posted by Schmidty

ur a little light to be doing cycle but your gona proly do it anyway so I would go with test-e unless u want to shoot ED or EOD with the sust

I would go with the sust. You do not have to shoot ed or eod day, There is a chance that ed/eod will maximize results, but not enough of a difference to have to go through that, if you aren't used to it. As long as everything else is in check(diet,sleep ect...)twice a week is fine. I ran it both ways...and teh only difference I noticed was a little less sides @ eod as opposed to 2/week.

**Schmidty** · 03-31-2007, 01:58 PM

Originally Posted by maxex

I would go with the sust. You do not have to shoot ed or eod day, There is a chance that ed/eod will maximize results, but not enough of a difference to have to go through that, if you aren't used to it. As long as everything else is in check(diet,sleep ect...)twice a week is fine. I ran it both ways...and teh only difference I noticed was a little less sides @ eod as opposed to 2/week.

I got a friend of mine who i have put him on 2 cycles now. The first was sust 500mg a week 2xwk and the othe was sust 750 3xwk. I have to inject him cause hes too scared so i know how many shots he was doing. Anywho he had more water retention with the 500 the the 750 and i think its because the shote were more regular and his levels were more constant.But it is different with everybody ya know.To each their own.