Roookie

**qmack26** · 03-31-2007, 04:50 PM

my first cycle was d-bol i handled it quit well but it was oral what do you recomend for a strenght and a mass gainer for a rookie im about to learn how to do injections.

any guides on how to do injections

thanks for help

**qmack26** · 03-31-2007, 06:28 PM

Would
Tesata E 250
Deca Durabolin

be a good cycle

**SMAN12b** · 03-31-2007, 06:37 PM

www . s i t e i n j e c t i o n s .com (take out the spaces)

what are your complete stats...answer all the green questions below

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 06:38 PM

post some stats bro

**qmack26** · 03-31-2007, 06:42 PM

Height:5/8
Weight:160
Age:22

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 06:43 PM

I think you already know what everyone is gonna say.

**SMAN12b** · 03-31-2007, 06:43 PM

AGE,HEIGHT,WEIGHT, BF%, DIET, TRAINING, PREVIOUS CYCLES, GOALS, and PCT KNOWLEDGE

Mind saving us some time and answering ALL the questions so we don't have to keep asking??? THANKS

**SMAN12b** · 03-31-2007, 06:45 PM

Originally Posted by Outta Kontrol

I think you already know what everyone is gonna say.

EW EW tell me tell me......what is everyone gonna say?????.....lolol

His age is a bit younger, but not terrible.....

weight is decent for his height, but not the best.......

doesn't sound like he has much PCT knowledge........

should I keep going???

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 06:46 PM

Originally Posted by qmack26

Would
Tesata E 250
Deca Durabolin

be a good cycle

this isn't a cycle by the way. this is a list of two compounds. A cycle includes a dosage amount, dosage length, PCT....

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 06:47 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

EW EW tell me tell me......what is everyone gonna say?????.....lolol

His age is a bit younger, but not terrible.....

weight is decent for his height, but not the best.......

doesn't sound like he has much PCT knowledge........

should I keep going???

hahahaha hit it right on the head there SMAN. My thoughts exactly!!! lol

**qmack26** · 03-31-2007, 06:54 PM

first cycle:

wk1-10 Test E 250 i dont know how much i should take a day though need help on this one

wk1-5 Dbol 30mg/ed

pct:
wk13 Clomid 100mg-Nolva 40mg/ed
wk14 Clomid 50mg-Nolva 30mg/ed
wk15 Clomid 50mg-Nolva 20mg/ed

when i do injection if pfrefer only one perticular place like by biceps can stick with the same spot but different areas of it like the outer bic and the inner bic

**SMAN12b** · 03-31-2007, 06:59 PM

For a first injectable cycle I would stick to ONE compound only so you can learn how your body will react to it . That way you know exactly what is giving you good or bad side effects.

Nothing wrong with Test/Deca cycle but if you want to do this right , you can gain great off just test alone.

I would do anywhere from 250-500 for the first cycle.

Test E should be shot once every 3.5 days so like MOnday morning, and thursday night

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 07:01 PM

research site rotation, injection sites, ect.
there is a bar at the top of the page and the third from last word says "search"... it's a wonderful thing. It's like stepping into Alices' Wonderland.

**qmack26** · 03-31-2007, 07:06 PM

so what would be the best mass and strenght cycle out of the following:

Testa E 250 and D-bol

or

Testa E 250 and Deca Durabol

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 07:08 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

For a first injectable cycle I would stick to ONE compound only so you can learn how your body will react to it . That way you know exactly what is giving you good or bad side effects.

Nothing wrong with Test/Deca cycle but if you want to do this right , you can gain great off just test alone.

I would do anywhere from 250-500 for the first cycle.

Test E should be shot once every 3.5 days so like MOnday morning, and thursday night

ummmm TEST ONLY

**monkeyboy1215** · 03-31-2007, 07:22 PM

So every one here has already suggested it but Now I am going to say in lound and clear. FOR YOUR FIRST CLYCLE YOU WOULD BE BEST TO USE 1 COMPUND. THE TEST ALONE WILL DO WHAT YOU WANT IT TOO. ON YOUR NEXT CYCLE YOU CAN ADD A COMPOUND OR UP THE AMOUNT OF TEST.

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 07:24 PM

welcome to the board

**qmack26** · 03-31-2007, 07:32 PM

so how long should i stay on the test and how much should i order.

at my source i get this much for the regelr price

1x10ml(250mg/ml)

so how much bottles or veils should i need

do i need any pct.

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 07:37 PM

are you kidding me man!!!??? How about doing some reading and research and using that space between your ears and answering some of these questions yourself first. This is getting tiring and it is time for me to go eat. Good luck and I mean that!!!!

**SMAN12b** · 03-31-2007, 08:32 PM

Qmack.........I suggest before you make another post you read the board rules.

There is NO price discussion at all on the open forums

Please edit your post NOW !!!

If you have to ask if you need PCT then there is NO WAY in hell you are ready to be using steroids !!!!!!!

**USMCSS** · 03-31-2007, 08:49 PM

I haven't been on the site in a while and I know I started a rather humorous thread for be gone for so long (big unwanted break between cycles

) but this one tops it.

I would absolutely love to see a 5.8"/160lb dude use his bicep as his first injection site. I mean really, not trying to be harsh, but there can't be that much meat on the bone for somebody with those stats. He sure as hell won't be doing curls for about a week!

Not to mention with those stats, I see plenty of room for natural bulking before hitting the AAS. Especially at the ripe age of 22

**qmack26** · 03-31-2007, 09:20 PM

well i might not have 22 inch guns but my legs are my strong point they are 20 inch all the way around so could i start my first injection in my thight

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 09:30 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Qmack.........I suggest before you make another post you read the board rules.

There is NO price discussion at all on the open forums

Please edit your post NOW !!!

If you have to ask if you need PCT then there is NO WAY in hell you are ready to be using steroids !!!!!!!

WERD!!!!

**USMCSS** · 03-31-2007, 10:20 PM

Originally Posted by qmack26

well i might not have 22 inch guns but my legs are my strong point they are 20 inch all the way around so could i start my first injection in my thight

The last thing u need to be worrying about is where to do you're injections right now. You need to know everything there is to know about what you're injecting long before you load it up in that syringe. Start studying and then when you think you know everything, study more, and THEN ask questions that aren't already answered for you in at least one of the stickies on the board

**Valac** · 04-01-2007, 02:46 AM

i like
test c 250mg
1cc ea shoulder
1cc ea leg
PCT= Nolvadex
keep letrozloe on hand incase of gyno.
also u could put in some winny

with injecting i find it better to get a really close friend to do it for ya. i cant do it myself. lol im scared

**Outta Kontrol** · 04-01-2007, 08:40 AM

Originally Posted by Valac

i like
test c 250mg
1cc ea shoulder
1cc ea leg
PCT= Nolvadex
keep letrozloe on hand incase of gyno.
also u could put in some winny

with injecting i find it better to get a really close friend to do it for ya. i cant do it myself. lol im scared

Winny???? I don't think he is trying to cut that's for sure. He is 160 lbs. and this is his first cycle. First off he doesn't need to cycle, he needs to train and read... (and not specifically in that order) He can get another 15 20 pounds naturally easy. The bro mentions no knowledge of what PCT is, he has yet to show any reasonable knowlege of injections, and he has yet to show ANY initiative in educating himself. This bro is looking for handouts here. Tell me this: How easy is it to find how much and for how long a compound is reccommended? That's BASIC DAYUM

**Njord** · 04-01-2007, 10:06 AM

Originally Posted by Valac

i like
test c 250mg
1cc ea shoulder
1cc ea leg
PCT= Nolvadex
keep letrozloe on hand incase of gyno.
also u could put in some winny

with injecting i find it better to get a really close friend to do it for ya. i cant do it myself. lol im scared

What crappy advice! So according to your statement here, you recommend shooting 250mg x 4 for a total of 1000mg??

**gigem** · 04-01-2007, 10:45 AM

wheeeew! I agree if your asking if you needpct you need to back up and research a little more but i have a feeling your going to do it anyway its all constructive criticism here thats what your here for right? glutes or shoulders are the best bet i think someone gave you the link. if it were me id wait hit the gym hard, lots of research diet pct injections etc if your serious about your goals its a small sacrifice to do it right without doing more harm than good