.......stating a cycle next week, let me know if i should change anything THANKS.....

**boDAWG** · 03-31-2007, 08:01 PM

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**ShadetreeJones** · 03-31-2007, 08:04 PM

I'm looking to start my first cycle in the next few weeks as well. Out of curiosity, why no deca ?

**boDAWG** · 03-31-2007, 08:12 PM

its my first cycle and i just really dont wanna hit it that hard the first time, im planning on doing a cycle of anavar after this and then hop onto a cycle of test and deca in like a year or so

**bpm1** · 03-31-2007, 08:17 PM

i hope uve got some nolva or a-dex for gyno, id run one or the other through the whole cycle, IMO

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 08:23 PM

looks good. Good base, Diet looks solid (on the surface) you could go with 500 mg Test for 10 weeks. Do a search on front loading. may be beneficial.

**boDAWG** · 03-31-2007, 08:40 PM

ii tries serching front loading and cant find anything specific

**SMAN12b** · 03-31-2007, 08:42 PM

Test e is a long ester, takes anywhere from 4-8 weeks to fully kick in , in some people.

Front loading is where you take TWICE the dose for the first week to get your bood levels up quicker so you start feeling the effects of the test sooner.

**Big Drez** · 03-31-2007, 08:50 PM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

Test e is a long ester, takes anywhere from 4-8 weeks to fully kick in , in some people.

Front loading is where you take TWICE the dose for the first week to get your bood levels up quicker so you start feeling the effects of the test sooner.

not to jack the thread BUT...you can frontload test e alone even though the ester is somewhat long? Dumb question I know, but if you were running 500mg week for 10-12 weeks you could say bump it to about 800mg/week for weeks 1-4 or something like that?

**scribbs12** · 03-31-2007, 09:06 PM

Originally Posted by Big Drez

not to jack the thread BUT...you can frontload test e alone even though the ester is somewhat long? Dumb question I know, but if you were running 500mg week for 10-12 weeks you could say bump it to about 800mg/week for weeks 1-4 or something like that?

same here not to jack the thread but i was wondering about that too... if i was going to take 500 a week.. would i do 500x2 =1000 the first week? and then go back to 250x2

**SMAN12b** · 03-31-2007, 09:22 PM

Originally Posted by scribbs12

same here not to jack the thread but i was wondering about that too... if i was going to take 500 a week.. would i do 500x2 =1000 the first week? and then go back to 250x2

YES, you just double each shot for the first week! so instead of 250 on Monday you would do 500 and the same on Thursday night

Then the following week you would do 250 on Monday and Thursday

Originally Posted by Big Drez

not to jack the thread BUT...you can frontload test e alone even though the ester is somewhat long? Dumb question I know, but if you were running 500mg week for 10-12 weeks you could say bump it to about 800mg/week for weeks 1-4 or something like that?

I am not the expert on front loading, but I wouldn't do it for 4 weeks as then you are still just getting your blood levels up over a 4 week period then dropping down to 500 may cause more side effects

Whereas just doing 1000 the first week will get your blood levels up to where they need to be and get more stable quicker.

There are a couple GREAT threads about it with blood level charts and everything if you care to do a search for them or if I find the link i will add it here.

Here it is, only took a minute to find using the SEARCH button

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=frontloading

**boDAWG** · 03-31-2007, 09:25 PM

oh its only one word hahaha oh well im more concerned about the questions i have than frontloading as i dont have enough test to frontload

**Outta Kontrol** · 03-31-2007, 09:40 PM

SMAN, is all over it!!!
Why not just do 400 per week for 12 weeks. I am just having a hard time understanding the 250mg for the first two weeks. Maybe that's just me???

**Big Drez** · 04-01-2007, 03:15 AM

Originally Posted by SMAN12B

YES, you just double each shot for the first week! so instead of 250 on Monday you would do 500 and the same on Thursday night

Then the following week you would do 250 on Monday and Thursday

I am not the expert on front loading, but I wouldn't do it for 4 weeks as then you are still just getting your blood levels up over a 4 week period then dropping down to 500 may cause more side effects

Whereas just doing 1000 the first week will get your blood levels up to where they need to be and get more stable quicker.

There are a couple GREAT threads about it with blood level charts and everything if you care to do a search for them or if I find the link i will add it here.

Here it is, only took a minute to find using the SEARCH button

http://forums.steroid.com/showthread...t=frontloading

thanks a lot S man good deal....much appreciated info....

**ironaddict69** · 04-01-2007, 03:29 AM

yeah dude, ur NOT 19% BF i think ur less, anyway, no u should really just go with 500 mg for 12-14 weeks. this starting off lighter thing(mg wise) is pointless and counterproductive. like SMAN said (who is very knowledgeable), its best to frontload in the beginning if anything. or stack dbol with it for the first 4 weeks, however i recommend just doing test. Good base BTW, and good luck.

**Valac** · 04-01-2007, 03:36 AM

seeing how this is ur first cycle id prob go like this
week 1: test 250mg
week 2-10: test 500mg
week 11-12: test 250mg, nolva 50mg ed
then start tappering off nolva somethin like 50/50/50/40/40/40/30/30/20/20
depends what dosage u get either 10mg ot 20mg can change to 60mg instead and cut the 30 out just make ea a lil longer

**boDAWG** · 04-01-2007, 10:09 AM

WELL THE reason why im doing 250 for first two weeks is because i only have 20ml of test e 250, so that will make it enough, unless i do like last 2 weeks of 250 OR if i did 10 weeks at 500mg