What To Stack With Deca?

**frenchy** · 04-02-2007, 12:52 PM

im gettin some deca and some winny and I would like to stack an oral with it.
I want the least amount of toxicity possible with the best cutting/gains possible. Anyone have any idea or what would be best in regards to stacking with what I already have and availability/cost???

**testisbest** · 04-02-2007, 12:54 PM

I might try something called testosterone .

**RobbieG** · 04-02-2007, 01:01 PM

Originally Posted by frenchy

im gettin some deca and some winny and I would like to stack an oral with it.
I want the least amount of toxicity possible with the best cutting/gains possible. Anyone have any idea or what would be best in regards to stacking with what I already have and availability/cost???

Would this be your first cycle ?

**Hellmaskbanned** · 04-02-2007, 01:05 PM

If it's your first cycle go with Test only. The best IMO.

**kfrost06** · 04-02-2007, 01:56 PM

yes that is a lot to do if it's your first cycle, if not, a low toxic oral would be var which is great for cutting and you will keep your gains off that.

**Selene** · 04-02-2007, 03:25 PM

Originally Posted by frenchy

im gettin some deca and some winny and I would like to stack an oral with it.
I want the least amount of toxicity possible with the best cutting/gains possible. Anyone have any idea or what would be best in regards to stacking with what I already have and availability/cost???

please do more research you must use test with deca

**Dangerdan** · 04-02-2007, 04:08 PM

Originally Posted by Selene

please do more research you must use test with deca

This is BS and coming from a parrot obviously. There isn't any one compount that you must use with any other compound. There are guildlines and suggestions of what works best for most people. For most people, you probably wouldn't want to run deca by itself, although this was common some years ago.

I agree with Hellmask though, for the first cycle, most people will do best with test. My first cycle was deca only and I did fine, had a hard time recovering but nothing too bad. I still wouldn't recommend it. Do some research before you take anything.

**MrMe** · 04-02-2007, 05:16 PM

I wouldnt use deca alone, not cause im being a parrot, but because i've read so many mix results that i wouldnt chance screwing up 1 cycle and having to do time on = time off of a crap cycle cause i didnt use test with it. But if this is your first cycle, stick to test enth or cyp, this way you will get familiar with the pin and how your body reacts on the enth.

**frenchy** · 04-02-2007, 05:25 PM

its not my first cycle but my second Im just finishing a sustanon 250 e3d cycle and have made a little bit of gain 178 lbs to 196 lbs in 9 weeks and reduced my bfi from 26 to 23... if i dont run test with deca winny my body will stop producing test right... im not too concerned with having troubles getting an erection for a few months if its not permanent. is there a danger of having the shutdown be permanent and could i not just use strong tribulus during my cycle. not sure just a newb?? sadly dont have a reliable test source right now only winny/deca??

**frenchy** · 04-02-2007, 05:30 PM

hint?

**kfrost06** · 04-02-2007, 05:46 PM

There are other problems you may experience by not having any test in your body. I too once did a deca only cycle and I felt very tired and had to nap during the day. I also experienced a lose of libido and would have benefited from having test in my cycle, you live and learn.

**frenchy** · 04-02-2007, 05:50 PM

ay I realize that but like I say don't have test as of now and not sure of my source. So just wondering if loss of libido will be temp without test

**gooer** · 04-02-2007, 06:28 PM

deca and winny, you can do it, i've seen people do it. would i recommend it? no. you're gonna lose your sex drive. however that being said - you will still get huge. so i mean if that's something you are willing to deal with, knock yourself out.

it's not permenant. it would be best to wait until you had some test. but if you can't get it, you can't get it. maybe order some viagra or cialis from one of the research sites.

**frenchy** · 04-02-2007, 07:01 PM

allrighty limp dick it is lol

**frenchy** · 04-02-2007, 07:01 PM

might hit a good source part way in and then i could just incorporate hey!?

**gigem** · 04-02-2007, 07:47 PM

ive done a deca only i ****ed like a rabbit and was runnin ninety to nothing so go figure?

**frenchy** · 04-02-2007, 11:47 PM

whats 90 to nothing

**Hellmaskbanned** · 04-02-2007, 11:53 PM

Many have done Deca cycles without test and experienced no negative sides.

Honestly I don't like testosterone . It gives me killer acne, while other AAS do not.

If you had good results with your last cycle using test why not use it again. Just use a replacement dosage of around 100-200mgs.

Test 200mgs/week
Deca 400mgs/week

To be honest, if you were only 178 with 26% bodyfat, the only cycle you should be "on" is a lifecycle IMO.

**frenchy** · 04-03-2007, 12:51 AM

what is a lifecycle IMO

**workdude** · 04-03-2007, 01:39 AM

I've done deca only and it works just not the best route. If you are going to run 1 compound i would do test only. jmo. If that is all you have and you MUST do a cycle run what you have.

I would keep it simple for just your second cycle. JMO

Personally I would wait and do it right though.jmo.

**frenchy** · 04-03-2007, 01:46 AM

ya I guess I should wait and stack test to gain with synergistic effect...

**gigem** · 04-03-2007, 11:26 AM

yeah bro i wouldnt recommend i wouldnt do it again good luck to you

**operationgetbig** · 04-03-2007, 11:29 AM

test

**MX40Plus** · 04-03-2007, 01:06 PM

cialis.

**taiboxa** · 04-03-2007, 04:17 PM

i always take TRT doses .. kuz i LOVE BULLET PROOF BONERS!!!

**frenchy** · 04-11-2007, 01:29 AM

what is TRT?

**frenchy** · 04-11-2007, 01:31 AM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

Many have done Deca cycles without test and experienced no negative sides.

Honestly I don't like testosterone . It gives me killer acne, while other AAS do not.

If you had good results with your last cycle using test why not use it again. Just use a replacement dosage of around 100-200mgs.

Test 200mgs/week
Deca 400mgs/week

To be honest, if you were only 178 with 26% bodyfat, the only cycle you should be "on" is a lifecycle IMO.

Hellmask can you expand on your last statement Im kinda curious ?? You think I should do a lifecycle...

**McQueen** · 04-11-2007, 06:35 AM

Originally Posted by Selene

please do more research you must use test with deca

Worst comment ever....

**Nitz5785** · 04-11-2007, 07:45 AM

Originally Posted by Hellmask

To be honest, if you were only 178 with 26% bodyfat, the only cycle you should be "on" is a lifecycle IMO.

LMFAO!

I still wouldn't recommend Deca without test. I personally love the quality gains I get from Deca but it kills my sex drive even with test. Cialis is a life/wife saver