Best gains with orals.....

[HighCrimes]

Stats....6'1 223lbs, 11.8% BF..............i have only done one previous cycle, which was nothing special....D-bol and Sust 250....

I want to start my second cycle but need opinions....

Right now i have Test E that i will be taking 350mgs twice a week....i dont want to do ED pinning so i was wondering what type of orals would be the best to take with Test E to increase size and muscle mass....

[Outta Kontrol]

welcome. How old are you?

[HighCrimes]

i just turned 26 a couple weeks ago

[Outta Kontrol]

your question is what type of orals would be best to take with Test E for strength and size. Actualy, none. You'll get results with a Test only cycle. Just takes longer to notice. Orals are used to kickstart a cycle. I.E. week 1-4 50mg of dbol ed. BTW, no need to do Test E ed.

[HighCrimes]

I wasnt gonna take the Test E ED, just twice a week......is there any other injectable that i could do twice a week also on the same days as the Test E so i wont have to do ED pinning?

[JMan06]

sure there is, deca and eq.

[Outta Kontrol]

agreed. research Deca. inject once a week

[HighCrimes]

nice, thanks guys, appreciate the help

[HighCrimes]

Does this sound alright....

1-4 D-bol 50mg ED
1-12 Deca 600mg EW
1-14 Test E 350mg Monday mornings and Thursday evenings
9-14 Winny 25mg ED

[HighCrimes]

Bump^^

[briancb1]

Does this sound alright....

1-4 D-bol 50mg ED
1-12 Deca 600mg EW
1-14 Test E 350mg Monday mornings and Thursday evenings
9-14 Winny 25mg ED

Sounds like you are jumping on the "more is better" bandwagon quick.

[HighCrimes]

What if i take off the Deca and stick with everything else?

[briancb1]

I like to think of it this way, but dont take it literally:

If 10 beers got me drunk last week, will I need 15 beers to get drunk next week? Then 20 after that? No, a persons tolerance doesn't raise that drastically.

How long ago was your last cycle?

I bet you will still get good solid gains by just raising the dose a little bit and doing the same thing. Just keep your diet clean and plentiful, switch up your routines regularly and all that good stuff.

[HighCrimes]

But my last cycle i did ED injecting, didnt like doing that too much so i wanted to try somethin a little different

[briancb1]

But my last cycle i did ED injecting, didnt like doing that too much so i wanted to try somethin a little different

I thought you were going to use test E? Its still Testosterone just has a specific long acting ester, not blended. 2 shots a week (every 3.5 days) with Test E will be stable and fine IMO - thats what I do.

I mean if you really want to run more gear go for it, no one is going to stop you.

Good luck