Deca or Equipoise?

[jaysunderstudy]

I started thinking about this today, I know Deca and Equipoise are relatively similar in terms of doseage and gains and severity of side effects. But I do know that Deca stays in the system a whole lot longer than EQ, my question is this do u have to run EQ for min 12 weeks like Deca or could u do it for 8-10 weeks? Deca is pretty good from what i've read and heard but its so high though.

[Random]

Na man, if you frontload either one of those youll do fine at 8-12 wks...

CD

[Random]

Also, if mass is your goal deca will yield more vs Eq

[plzr8]

Also, if mass is your goal deca will yield more vs Eq

agreed, much more

[jaysunderstudy]

cool thats what I wanted to know, i had planned to frontload either 1 already I just wanted to know

[operationgetbig]

IMO eq and deca arent very similiar at all as far as mass and strength gains. i believe the chemical structure is similiar. Deca will pack on pounds of muscle a lot easier then eq and lube the joints up real nice. Eq is pretty mild and you gotta run it for at least 12 weeks. alot of people will say 16 weeks to get the full effect. Eq is good if your looking for vascularity and muscle hardness. and also for appetite increase.

[str8cubano79]

Deca had more sides than EQ as well, especially progesterine induced gyno, and deca dick...so you need to keep that in mind. Most usually run some test along with deca to cover the deca dick problem, it may or may not effect you, everyone is different. But deca induced gyno thats another story...

[Booz]

deca and eq are nowhere near the same for gains mate.......................

[skipp]

I agree with the group. Deca will give you more, but has a much higher potential for sides. EQ imo, is a bit on the safer side but will yield less.

[jagdpanther]

But I do know that Deca stays in the system a whole lot longer than EQ

The halflives of the ester for each:

Nandrolone Decanoate 15days

Boldenone Undecanoate 16.5 days

If anything Equipose stays in your system longer.

[taiboxa]

deca and eq are nowhere near the same for gains mate.......................

no shyt.. its like comparing a bb gun toa fuxin bazooka
bb gun = eq btw for those who are parrots.

[helium3]

nandrolone is teh win!

[Swifto]

Totally different androgens.

[Vinlander]

I started thinking about this today, I know Deca and Equipoise are relatively similar in terms of doseage and gains and severity of side effects. But I do know that Deca stays in the system a whole lot longer than EQ, my question is this do u have to run EQ for min 12 weeks like Deca or could u do it for 8-10 weeks? Deca is pretty good from what i've read and heard but its so high though.

The steroid profile on the front of the website is a bit misleading. It makes two false comparisons (even if inadvertently doing so) with Dianabol and Deca Durabolin . It goes on to take a step back from these claims but the misdirection is already done.

Due to an enzyme in Boldenone (EQ), its conversion into dihydroboldenone is akin to DHT and mimics its effects. Were I to make a true comparison to its effects, I would say its anabolic capacity more closely resembles Anavar or Winstrol and its estrogenic side-effects that of Drostanolone. There is nearly no aromatization with this compound and its effects on your testosterone levels are more quickly negated than Nandrolone .

The ONLY resemblance to Deca comes in low aromatization. Nandrolone is more suited as a member of both bulking and cutting cycles, to be run from 8-16 weeks at 400mg/week. Equipoise is almost exclusively a cutting drug and can be used around the same dosage, though a front-load is recommended at 2x normal dosage for the first two weeks.

I hope this helps.

[jaysunderstudy]

i was talking about it staying in ur system as far as piss tests go, I know the actual drug half life is a couple weeks, but its not really gonna do me any good if i wanna compete sometime this winter or next year and it can still be picked up in my system for 18 mo. u know?!
Ne who thanx for the advice, I knew they were different androgens I've just read different articles and heard arguments go one way and the other so I thought i'd ask around.

[skipp]

So why not just go with NPP, I'm not sure what the detection time is. But it's gotta be less than the deconate..

[jaysunderstudy]

yeah but i want something a lil bit more long acting and the NPP still detectable after like a year I think which is better than 18 mo. but a long ass time nonetheless. Newho does the prop. ester of NPP hurt like the propionate ester of test?

[rockbottom]

yeah but i want something a lil bit more long acting and the NPP still detectable after like a year I think which is better than 18 mo. but a long ass time nonetheless. Newho does the prop. ester of NPP hurt like the propionate ester of test?

They need to just stop testing bodybuilders. The process is silly. Everyone juices. Everyone knows it.

For that matter, I propose we begin a new league in every sport in which the athletes can juice to their hearts' content. Lets see how far people can really jump.

Also, we should have a separate steroid olympics.

Bring on the libertarianism.

To the point. I'm much less experienced than these guys, but I don't like Deca . Starting my first cycle of Eq once my croatian friend decides not to take my money and move to a new flat.

[ziinus]

Do both if you can

[rockbottom]

Do both if you can

Deca + Eq + Test (necessary) = not a great cycle. Then again, sounds like he's a pro, so whatevers.

[Swifto]

I started thinking about this today, I know Deca and Equipoise are relatively similar in terms of doseage and gains and severity of side effects. But I do know that Deca stays in the system a whole lot longer than EQ, my question is this do u have to run EQ for min 12 weeks like Deca or could u do it for 8-10 weeks? Deca is pretty good from what i've read and heard but its so high though.

Most state the real gains come from running both compounds for over 10-12 weeks.

[rockbottom]

Most state the real gains come from running both compounds for over 10-12 weeks.

I stand corrected.

[Vinlander]

Most state the real gains come from running both compounds for over 10-12 weeks.

Most noticeable muscle synthesis doesn't occur until that timespan anyhow, so I'm wondering how much of it is the compound and how much is natural synthesis. Three months is certainly a good amount of time for pure diet/exercise to see gains.

That being said, I can't see why anyone wouldn't want to run a much longer cycle of Deca . Your body couldn't possibly synthesize the muscle properly in a short timespan.

[rrrozell]

imo i like deca . it is just an allaround good compound. i have used both with good results but i dont hold water. most people will recommend eq bc of this. you will have to try both and decide for yourself. everyone reacts to compounds diffrently

[Booz]

Deca + Eq + Test (necessary) = not a great cycle. Then again, sounds like he's a pro, so whatevers.

why not a great cycle mate?
i and others have ran both several times with great results...................

[rockbottom]

why not a great cycle mate?
i and others have ran both several times with great results...................

See my post below (the one where I said oops I'm wrong).

[Booz]

See my post below (the one where I said oops I'm wrong).

i musta had a moment there lol............................

[moneymike22]

i am anew member and i have a very important question.i just recieved my gear order from a reliable source so it seems and i fear i got fake products. i received bd boldabol.blue top that says tear flip up on cap green logo no hologram clear color not yellow green rubber stopper w/ bd logo.please help! is this legitamate??

[davidboy]

i am anew member and i have a very important question.i just recieved my gear order from a reliable source so it seems and i fear i got fake products. i received bd boldabol.blue top that says tear flip up on cap green logo no hologram clear color not yellow green rubber stopper w/ bd logo.please help! is this legitamate??

Post it to Pictures forum and we will help you out

[moneymike22]

how do i do that? i went to the spot where they discuss real or fake but was not allowed to reply or send any messages.i also dont have a web cam to take a pic of my gear.what do u think?

[moneymike22]

i posted it to pics forum please check

[RA]

Dont hijack threads bro, start your own.

[moneymike22]

i cant start my own i just started here and i dont know how to do everything

[Bigmax]

Bro,click on starting your own thread and have at it...whatever you do Please READ the RULES...

[moneymike22]

i read the rules but it says i cannot start my own thread and some threads it will not let me respond to.i really need help w/ my question.do u have any idea?

[RA]

upper left hand corner, right below educational threads

[moneymike22]

i meant my quedtion about the eq? real or fake?

[Outta Kontrol]

i read the rules but it says i cannot start my own thread and some threads it will not let me respond to.i really need help w/ my question.do u have any idea?

Click the tab that says "New Thread" It is located just below Educational threads (upper left hand corner)

[RyanByers]

Deca is def the way to go for mass!!!!

[S431M7]

The steroid profile on the front of the website is a bit misleading. It makes two false comparisons (even if inadvertently doing so) with Dianabol and Deca Durabolin . It goes on to take a step back from these claims but the misdirection is already done.

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I also think some the stroid profile needs some serious editing...