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04-07-2007, 09:28 AM #1Female Member
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Simple Newbie Question.........
How do you break open vials?
I believe this has a stopper kind of seal -- do I have to get a sterile vial to mix? Or, do I just take a syringe and pop it through?
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04-07-2007, 09:30 AM #2New Member
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if its on with the rubber stopper take your rig and stick it through man. are you sure you know what your doing. if its glass snap the top off.
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04-07-2007, 09:30 AM #3
get one of them vial cutter things or just break the top off
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04-07-2007, 09:33 AM #4Associate Member
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if its a amp put the top in a pen cap and turn...if its a vial y do u want to break it open
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04-07-2007, 09:34 AM #5Female Member
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It's a glass vial........
I can just take a syringe and inject water into it?
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04-07-2007, 09:35 AM #6Associate Member
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ok what are you trying to do?
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04-07-2007, 09:37 AM #7Female Member
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I have 10,000 iu of HCG in one vial and 10 ml of bacteriostatic water in another........I need to mix them. Can I just fill a syringe with the water and inject into the HCG vial?
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04-07-2007, 09:38 AM #8Originally Posted by SexyTeacher-XL
jing jai
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04-07-2007, 09:40 AM #9Female Member
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Thanks........
I bought 1/2 cc x 29 ga x 1/2 inch needle to inject -- plan on doing it SubQ next to the belly button......
I can also inject in the arm or thigh, right?
Is it true you're not supposed to inject in the same sight more than twice a week?
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04-07-2007, 09:41 AM #10Associate Member
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yea jut inject through the stopper dont open it then it wont be sterile
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04-07-2007, 09:46 AM #11
Please do some research, it seems like you are askng elementary questions. You can utilise the search faclity at the top of the page.
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jing jai
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04-07-2007, 09:47 AM #12Female Member
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And you can utilize a spell check!!!!!!!!!
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04-07-2007, 09:57 AM #13Originally Posted by SexyTeacher
1. Im in England, we spell some things slightly differently to you guys in the U.S. Feel free to do a check in an ENGLISH dictionary if you dont believe me.
2. This is a steriod forum not a spelling forum.
3. We are here to help guys like you, we do it for free and dont appreciate smart ass replies which show no appreciation for our efforts.
Welcome to A.R., I hope you enjoy your stay and learn to appreciate and respect everyone here, if you do, then you will learn a lot, if you dont then more fool you.-XL
jing jai
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04-07-2007, 09:57 AM #14Originally Posted by SexyTeacher
Dont bite the hands that feed you with that additude. Theres alot of good bros here who wont help ya if you act like that.
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04-07-2007, 10:02 AM #15Female Member
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All I was looking for was a SIMPLE response to my question......
It would've taken you the same amount of time to just answer the question, instead of being rude.
I'm a woman, not a bodybuilder.......I don't have the wealth of knowledge that you do, in this area.
So, I can't help it if to you these questions sound elementary - everyone starts somewhere.
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04-07-2007, 10:15 AM #16
Sexyteacher don't take offense to his use of the word elementry, I think he ment that this is a rudimentry procedure that has been outlined in a sticky or asked before.
By rudimentry - I mean everyone is going to encounter it becuse it is fundemental to injection or in this case the reconsitution of HCG .
often times the boards are cluttered with answers to questions that have been answered before, that is why he is suggesting the search button.
As to where you plan to inject - I've read that you want to stay at least 2inches away from the bb with HCG.
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04-07-2007, 02:56 PM #17Information
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Originally Posted by SexyTeacher
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04-07-2007, 04:55 PM #18Originally Posted by SexyTeacher
first of all as a woman, you should read and research just as anyone else is expected to, because you are a woman do not mean you should get special treatment.
also read the forum and learn that forum staff members should be treated with utmost respect, they donate their time to assist and help educate others and are usually not appreciated to the degree they deserve
you also ask for assistance on injections however do not specify what you are injecting as it would depend what you are using.
and yes, europeans use proper English in an effort to assist you
http://english2american.com/
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04-07-2007, 05:57 PM #19
What are you taking hcg for?
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04-07-2007, 06:08 PM #20Originally Posted by SexyTeacher
If your not a bodybuilder then why would you inject whatever your going to inject into your body? I'm guessing its AAS or somthing along those lines.
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04-07-2007, 06:16 PM #21
Sexyteach, I will try to get this back on topic. Is HCG the only thing you are injecting? and may I ask WHY HCG??
Sub q shots are not the same as IM shots. you can get away with more frequent injections cause you are not going into muscle and cause the needles are so thin
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04-07-2007, 06:50 PM #22
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As Sexyteacha is a women and wants to use hcg - I can only assume she probably wants to induce ovulation.
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04-07-2007, 06:54 PM #23
You need to learn how to use your gear on your own.
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04-08-2007, 06:54 AM #24Female Member
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SMan.......thanks!......
Was planning on doing the injections SubQ -- but since I bought those size needles, wanted to know if they can ALSO be used for IM, in the arm or thigh? I have read that a longer needle is needed if I was going to inject in my butt....
Did read the sticky on Injections.......just don't want to make a mistake. (a little scared)
So, sorry for those of you who feel I'm wasting your time.
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04-08-2007, 07:22 AM #25Associate Member
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Originally Posted by SexyTeacher
For HCG , there is not reason to shoot IM. SubQ is much more comfortable and easier to do it by yourself. Also, for subQ, you use insulin needles. I would get 1/2 cc with either the short tip 8mm needle or 12mm (1/2") needle. They are usually 29-31 gauge, very tiny.
I have the same vial 10ml of HCG and 10ml of bw water. How much are you planning on injecting? This will dictate as to how much water you're going to use for dillution. I don't like to use too much water and no, you don't have to use all the water. As an example, for my purposes and so it is easier to dose, I will only use 4ml of water.
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04-08-2007, 07:31 AM #26
I have used HCG for IM injections, no prob works fine and is easier IMO. inject anywhere you like in muscle as long as your are not very fat =]
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04-08-2007, 07:51 AM #27Female Member
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Using the HCG for weight loss -- going to be injecting 200 iu/day.
Definitely was going to do it SubQ -- but read somewhere that it is necessary to rotate inject sites -- that's why I was wondering if the needles I bought could be used for IM also, in the arm and thigh.
I have the 10,000 iu vial of HCG and 10ml of bacteristatic water. Was going to mix both of them just given what I have, for the sake of making it easier for myself. I know it's only good for 30 days in the refrigerator.....whatever I don't use I will throw out.
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04-08-2007, 07:56 AM #28
i know why we (men) use hcg why would you need it?just curious ,for intramuscular injections i use 23ga.1" needles
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04-08-2007, 07:59 AM #29
you will be fine ,no need to shoot in muscle ,site rotation is typically for oil based im injections to prevent abscess from forming
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04-08-2007, 08:04 AM #30Female Member
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Kevin Trudeau's new book -- he advocates HCG for weight loss to use along with a VERY restricted 500 cal/day diet
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04-08-2007, 08:35 AM #31Associate Member
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Originally Posted by SexyTeacher
As far as rotating sites/spots - you should rotate spots/sites with either one. I believe for HCG, it is easier to do subq. You can stay in the abdominal area forever - just rotate the spots. Where do you think diabetics shoot - abdominal, subq. Goint IM, you have more issues there and I don't really see a reason of doing it.
HCG can stay in the fridge for 2-3mths. I will be using mine for 3mths. Talked to my doctor and he basically said that there is a lot of misinformation on the subject. HCG might loose some of its effectiveness over time, but it is very slow and gradual.
Edit: Just re-read your original post. No worry about shooting subq. No need to rotate sides or anything. Just move around your abdominal area - about 2" away from bb. Once you get tired of stomach subq, you can move onto upper tigh area.
On the vials, they have a plastic cup. Can't remember if it's blue or some other color. Just break that plastic cover off and you will expose rubber stopper. Read up on proper procedure for maintaining sterile environment. To transfer water, best to use a larger syringe - sometime you can buy them separate. 10cc would be great and 18g needle as you just have to do it once - draw the water and inject into the hcg vial. When injecting into HCG vial, do it slowly and run it on the side of the vial and not directly onto the powder.Last edited by finny; 04-08-2007 at 08:43 AM.
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04-08-2007, 09:25 AM #32Female Member
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Thanks a bunch, Finny!!
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04-08-2007, 09:32 AM #33Originally Posted by SexyTeacher
And you are NOT wasting our time here Teach, its just some guys here have more testosterone running in them so they are a bit ...Testy....lolol
Oh, and with a user name like yours, the rules state you must post pics to back it up!!! .....lolol
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04-08-2007, 09:39 AM #34
You realize that is a fertility medication, right? The clinic I used to work at gave shot's of only 250IU and, well, they always ended up pregnant. And, quite a few times it was twin or triplets. So if you are sexually active, you need to be very careful at all times of the month if you are using this medication on a regular basis.
This fat loss you are talking about, was he referring to a specific gender? Usually, and unfortunately for women, most Bodybuilding books are written twords the Male side of the sport and rarely pay attention to females. HCG (without the use of acual exdigenous AAS) use in males would increase testosterone levels above normal range and would help reduce the catabolic effects of a low calorie diet on body muscle and help use up body fat stores.
Hope this helps
Dizz
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04-08-2007, 09:42 AM #35Female Member
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SMan
I guess b/c I'm a teacher I MUST follow the rules, right? LOL
Thanks for your support hun -- LOLLLLLLLLLLLLLL!!!
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04-08-2007, 09:44 AM #36Female Member
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Dizz
Thanks hun!!
The book clearly states it's for men AND women....
It's a new book....not sold in stores yet....only on infomercials. I got mine CHEAP on ebay.....
People use it when they want to lose A LOT of weight -- me, I just want the clothes to fit tighter than they already do.
However, I'm on other forums and the claims are its AMAZING!
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04-08-2007, 09:53 AM #37
Ok, one last question.....are you sure he was referring to HCG or HGH (Human Growth Hormone ).
Those are easy to confuse when read about but are totally different hormones.
HGH is definitely useful in fat loss in both men and women. Many profiles and studies have been done to confirm.
This is honestly the first time I've heard about HCG for that use. But hey, science discovers new things everyday.
Just wondering
DizzLast edited by Dizz28; 04-08-2007 at 09:57 AM.
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04-08-2007, 10:00 AM #38Female Member
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Dizz......
Ask all you want =)
It's def HCG -- he recommends injecting 125iu - 200 iu a day for 30 days max. Don't do it during your period -- you must start after it. If you have more weight to lose, stop for 6 weeks and then start the protocol again. You eat 500 cal a day of a specific list of foods (all organic) until you reach your goal weight. If you reach your goal weight before the 30 days, dont stop the HCG -- up your calories to 800-1000/day.
I think there is a lot of information on his website -- naturalcures.com
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04-08-2007, 10:15 AM #39Originally Posted by SexyTeacher
Ok, learn something new everyday....
Just remember, (not trying to get your personal life involved but...) at that dosage you will be very fertile.....so be careful
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04-08-2007, 10:25 AM #40
Sorry to say teacher but 500 calories a day seems ludicrously low, organic or not. I'm sure anyone sticking to a 500 calorie a day diet would lose tremendous weight not sure its the type of lose one wants however. Is the hcg supposed to protect you from catabolism of muscle?
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