which is a better cycle?

[lil-SLIM]

Im pretty set on the first cycle here but originally considered a completely different cycle (the one below), I want like 10 lbs of lbm and some def and hardening, which would be best suited? which is a better cycle?

1-11 test cyp 250mg x2 per week fronloaded first week
1-4 dbol 50mg ed
8-13 mastabol 200mg x2 per week
7-13 winnie 50mg ed

or

6 week cycle of test prop, tren ace, mastabol

[lil-SLIM]

oh yeah Ive done only one previous cycle which was test 5oo a week for 12 weeks, kickstarted with dbol 50mg ed weeks 1-4 and 60mg, of var weeks 8-12

[lil-SLIM]

I read it was best to avoid tren for first few cycles which lead me to design the 12 week cycle

[hugovsilva]

For 1st cycle I would stick to 1 or 2 compounds maximum , one being test.

I would try a test/masteron combo.

1-10: test prop @ 500mg/week
1-10: materon @ 500mg/week (minimum)

I am done with long esters.

[lil-SLIM]

its my second cycle but thanx for the advice

[2deizel]

second cycle this is what i would do.

1-12 test-c 500mgs a week
1-4 d-bol 50mgs ed
6-12 winny 50mgs ed.
diet will plat a big part of your lbm plan

[boDAWG]

second cycle this is what i would do.

1-12 test-c 500mgs a week
1-4 d-bol 50mgs ed
6-12 winny 50mgs ed.
diet will plat a big part of your lbm plan

EXACTLY, i think this is a perfect cycle for your second cycle